Re: No discussion of the Olympus OM-D ?

2012-01-26 Thread Sam L
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On 1/24/2012 1:00 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Sam L samthegr...@gmail.com: snip I am a new camera slut. I want to hold them, feel them, and twist their knobs. That's Mark-baiting. I admit I was aiming for a

Re: No discussion of the Olympus OM-D ?

2012-01-26 Thread Steven Desjardins
That's OK. We're not a particularly subtle group. On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Sam L samthegr...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On 1/24/2012 1:00 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Sam L samthegr...@gmail.com: snip I am a new

Re: No discussion of the Olympus OM-D ?

2012-01-26 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: No discussion of the Olympus OM-D ? That's OK. We're not a particularly subtle group. On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Sam L samthegr...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On 1/24/2012 1:00 PM, Brian Walters

Re: No discussion of the Olympus OM-D ?

2012-01-24 Thread Steven Desjardins
Body styling is obviously an important part of how a camera works since you have to hold it to use it. I'm not a fan of retro per se as much as I'm not a fan of modern styling for the sake of being different. Body styling also affects compactness as a dove bar will slide in your pocket whereas

Re: No discussion of the Olympus OM-D ?

2012-01-24 Thread Steven Desjardins
As for Olympus, I've noticed that many folks who use mu43 are current or former Pentax users. The most obvious overlap is a preference for small SLRs. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Body styling is obviously an important part of how a camera works

Re: No discussion of the Olympus OM-D ?

2012-01-24 Thread P. J. Alling
For me the styling is unimportant. Retro that works is controls and ergonomics. Since it's a m43 camera I doubt it will allow the use of legacy lenses better than any other m43 system camera so I'm not particularly excited. I don't own any OM-Zuiko glass anyway, but many were outstanding

Re: No discussion of the Olympus OM-D ?

2012-01-24 Thread Steven Desjardins
Agreed. I like my old cameras because the controls worked so well. The presence of automatic modes makes these controls an afterthought, and this becomes clear when you use the camera. Most shots work fine on auto but that actually makes it worse. You don't' use the manual controls as often, and

Re: No discussion of the Olympus OM-D ?

2012-01-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed. I like my old cameras because the controls worked so well. The presence of automatic modes makes these controls an afterthought, and this becomes clear when you use the camera.  Most shots work fine on auto

RE: No discussion of the Olympus OM-D ?

2012-01-24 Thread Bob W
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling If you want retro for retro sake, look at the Epson RD-1, now that's retro, even more so than the Leica M-9. The Epson RD-1's not retro, it's steampunk. The M9 is not retro either, any more than the M7

Re: No discussion of the Olympus OM-D ?

2012-01-24 Thread Sam L
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Given this groups propensity to enjoy retro, i'm a bit surprised that no one has yet said anything about the upcoming Olympus OM-D (or did I just miss it?).

Re: No discussion of the Olympus OM-D ?

2012-01-24 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Sam L samthegr...@gmail.com: snip I am a new camera slut. I want to hold them, feel them, and twist their knobs. Well - that's a MARK. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML

Re: No discussion of the Olympus OM-D ?

2012-01-24 Thread P. J. Alling
On 1/24/2012 3:41 PM, Sam L wrote: I want to hold them, feel them, and twist their knobs. Mark!! -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: No discussion of the Olympus OM-D ?

2012-01-24 Thread P. J. Alling
On 1/24/2012 4:00 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Sam L samthegr...@gmail.com: snip I am a new camera slut. I want to hold them, feel them, and twist their knobs. Well - that's a MARK. Not enough editing. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to

Re: No discussion of the Olympus OM-D ?

2012-01-24 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: On 1/24/2012 4:00 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Sam L samthegr...@gmail.com: snip I am a new camera slut. I want to hold them, feel them, and twist their knobs. Well - that's a MARK. Not enough editing. True. But this

RE: No discussion of the Olympus OM-D ?

2012-01-24 Thread Bob W
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Sam L Link #2 mentions the expectation that the new OM-D camera will have a weather sealed body. That is one area that will cause a more direct competition with Pentax. I am a new camera slut. I want to hold them,

Re: No discussion of the Olympus OM-D ?

2012-01-24 Thread Larry Colen
On 1/24/2012 1:00 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Sam L samthegr...@gmail.com: snip I am a new camera slut. I want to hold them, feel them, and twist their knobs. Well - that's a MARK. That's Mark-baiting. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (from dos4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

No discussion of the Olympus OM-D ?

2012-01-23 Thread Darren Addy
Given this groups propensity to enjoy retro, i'm a bit surprised that no one has yet said anything about the upcoming Olympus OM-D (or did I just miss it?). http://www.digphoto.org/content/olympus-om-d-camera-leaked-photo-revealed/71710031

Re: No discussion of the Olympus OM-D ?

2012-01-23 Thread Bob Sullivan
Is Olympus going to survive as a camera maker? They sure don't inspire much confidence as a public company. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Given this groups propensity to enjoy retro, i'm a bit surprised that no one has yet said

Re: No discussion of the Olympus OM-D ?

2012-01-23 Thread P. J. Alling
The only way I'd particularly care would be if it accepted OM lenses natively. Otherwise it's just another m43 camera. Nice but nothing special, except possibly for the pretty face. On 1/23/2012 5:48 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Given this groups propensity to enjoy retro, i'm a bit surprised

Re: No discussion of the Olympus OM-D ?

2012-01-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I don't think there's any particular propensity for this group of people to enjoy retro. I dislike retro, personally. Retro implies styling things to make appear a particular way for the sake of selling them on the fantasy of those looks. I dislike things that are false this way. I love cameras

Re: No discussion of the Olympus OM-D ?

2012-01-23 Thread Darren Addy
I don't know why speculation about an Olympus camera would be of more than just passing interest for the Pentax community, however. ALL interest is passing interest, for we mere mortals, Godfrey. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska - - - Nothing is sure but Death and Pentaxes -- PDML

Re: No discussion of the Olympus OM-D ?

2012-01-23 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
An exciting new camera is of more than passing interest to this group because (and this is just my unscientific opinion) many here are photographers first, Pentaxians second. That is evidenced by the fact that so many own other brands along with their Pentaxes; some have even discarded their