Re: OT: Christchurch Cathedral

2012-03-03 Thread David Mann
On Mar 4, 2012, at 9:10 AM, John Francis wrote: > This puts me in the unfamiliar position of defending my mother-in-law, > who for many years served on the Nottingham City Council (eventually > ending up leader). As mothers-in-law go she's quite reasonable (from > my limited experience) - I certa

Re: OT: Christchurch Cathedral

2012-03-03 Thread David Mann
On Mar 3, 2012, at 10:02 PM, Bob W wrote: > after WWII a lot of old buildings, towns and cities were rebuilt as faithful > replicas of what they had been Yes we're well aware of that, I've seen it brought up in the media many times. The difference we have is that we're needing to rebuild to a h

Re: OT: Christchurch Cathedral

2012-03-03 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 11:16:19PM -0500, John Sessoms wrote: > From: David Mann > > >On Mar 2, 2012, at 4:34 PM, Brian Walters wrote: > > > >>I'm not sure that Councillor Keown's comments are at all helpful. > > > >Our esteemed city councillors are about the biggest bunch of > >squabbling brats y

RE: OT: Christchurch Cathedral

2012-03-03 Thread Bob W
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > David Mann > > That's one plan that's been put forward, to make a new one in the same > shape as the old one but with modern design & materials. They're > demolishing it down until the walls are about 2-3 metres high so w

Re: OT: Christchurch Cathedral

2012-03-02 Thread David Mann
On Mar 3, 2012, at 4:06 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: > Dave, > I'm sad to hear all this. The Cathedral was/is a perfect anchor to > that 'square' in city center. $100 million is a lot of cost per > square foot. I've got to believe you could build a modern replica for > a lot less. Christchurch will

Re: OT: Christchurch Cathedral

2012-03-02 Thread John Sessoms
From: David Mann On Mar 2, 2012, at 4:34 PM, Brian Walters wrote: I'm not sure that Councillor Keown's comments are at all helpful. Our esteemed city councillors are about the biggest bunch of squabbling brats you could encounter. We should send them to Wellington or Canberra, they'd fit ri

RE: OT: Christchurch Cathedral

2012-03-02 Thread John Sessoms
From: David Mann Just announced this afternoon, a sad and already controversial decision over our city's landmark building. http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/6509814/Christ-Church-Cathedral-to-be-pulled-down Cheers, Dave Sad, but I hope they will be able to rebuild with something just as bea

Re: OT: Christchurch Cathedral

2012-03-02 Thread Ann Sanfedele
sad news about that, Dave thanks for all the details ann On 3/2/2012 00:30, David Mann wrote: On Mar 2, 2012, at 4:31 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: That's so unfortunate. I'm sure that there are architects an engineers in this world that could dvise a plan to save the cathedral. Demolishing it s

Re: OT: Christchurch Cathedral

2012-03-02 Thread Bob Sullivan
Dave, I'm sad to hear all this. The Cathedral was/is a perfect anchor to that 'square' in city center. $100 million is a lot of cost per square foot. I've got to believe you could build a modern replica for a lot less. Christchurch will be filled with modern architecture when you get done. A m

Re: OT: Christchurch Cathedral

2012-03-02 Thread David Mann
On Mar 2, 2012, at 6:40 PM, David Mann wrote: > It's going to be a while, they're talking about building a temporary > Cathedral somewhere. Replying to myself but I saw this set posted via Facebook. There is a handful of interesting photos of the Cathedral being constructed in the late 19th c

Re: OT: Christchurch Cathedral

2012-03-01 Thread David Mann
On Mar 2, 2012, at 4:03 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: > It must come as one more in a long series of gut-punches for you folks. > Here's hoping that its eventual substitute is an inspiring one. It's going to be a while, they're talking about building a temporary Cathedral somewhere. BTW this is just

Re: OT: Christchurch Cathedral

2012-03-01 Thread David Mann
On Mar 2, 2012, at 4:34 PM, Brian Walters wrote: > I'm not sure that Councillor Keown's comments are at all helpful. Our esteemed city councillors are about the biggest bunch of squabbling brats you could encounter. We should send them to Wellington or Canberra, they'd fit right in. On a rela

Re: OT: Christchurch Cathedral

2012-03-01 Thread David Mann
On Mar 2, 2012, at 4:31 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > That's so unfortunate. I'm sure that there are architects an engineers in > this world that could dvise a plan to save the cathedral. Demolishing it > seems so wrong. There was one heritage engineering expert quoted on the radio news this aft

Re: OT: Christchurch Cathedral

2012-03-01 Thread Walt Gilbert
Seems to me if they can dismantle a bridge over the Thames and move it to Lake Havasu, Arizona, dismantling and rebuilding a cathedral in situ with greater structural integrity wouldn't be all that great a challenge. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Bridge_(Lake_Havasu_City)

Re: OT: Christchurch Cathedral

2012-03-01 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting David Mann : Just announced this afternoon, a sad and already controversial decision over our city's landmark building. http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/6509814/Christ-Church-Cathedral-to-be-pulled-down Sad news but probably inevitable. At least it wont be totally demolished and

Re: OT: Christchurch Cathedral

2012-03-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
That's so unfortunate. I'm sure that there are architects an engineers in this world that could dvise a plan to save the cathedral. Demolishing it seems so wrong. Paul On Mar 1, 2012, at 9:37 PM, David Mann wrote: > Just announced this afternoon, a sad and already controversial decision over >

Re: OT: Christchurch Cathedral

2012-03-01 Thread Walt Gilbert
On 3/1/2012 8:37 PM, David Mann wrote: Just announced this afternoon, a sad and already controversial decision over our city's landmark building. http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/6509814/Christ-Church-Cathedral-to-be-pulled-down Cheers, Dave Ah, man. That's a terrible shame, David. It must

OT: Christchurch Cathedral

2012-03-01 Thread David Mann
Just announced this afternoon, a sad and already controversial decision over our city's landmark building. http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/6509814/Christ-Church-Cathedral-to-be-pulled-down Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.n

Re: OT: Christchurch Cathedral video

2012-02-15 Thread David Mann
On Feb 16, 2012, at 9:29 AM, John Sessoms wrote: > Right. I was thinking in terms of a completely new building designed to meet > the required level of safety, with a facade that retained the appearance of > the old building. Maybe if you made the facade out of fibreglass moulded and painted to

Re: OT: Christchurch Cathedral video

2012-02-15 Thread John Sessoms
Right. I was thinking in terms of a completely new building designed to meet the required level of safety, with a facade that retained the appearance of the old building. From: Bob Sullivan Dave, I've not been able to watch the video but I imagine the rebuild will be a problem, and that's a

Re: OT: Christchurch Cathedral video

2012-02-15 Thread Bob Sullivan
Dave, I've not been able to watch the video :-( but I imagine the rebuild will be a problem, and that's a shame. I can't imagine how to fix it. The original materials are so inflexible. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:10 PM, David Mann wrote: > On Feb 15, 2012, at 5:04 PM, John Sesso

Re: OT: Christchurch Cathedral video

2012-02-14 Thread David Mann
On Feb 15, 2012, at 5:04 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > I wonder if it would be possible to build an earthquake resistant structure > while retaining the appearance of the old cathedral? Depends on the earthquake and the level of resistance. The building codes have different levels of earthquake re

Re: OT: Christchurch Cathedral video

2012-02-14 Thread Larry Colen
On 2/14/2012 8:04 PM, John Sessoms wrote: I wonder if it would be possible to build an earthquake resistant structure while retaining the appearance of the old cathedral? Isn't the reason that people go to church to be closer to their god? Wouldn't a non-earthquake resistant cathedral haste

RE: OT: Christchurch Cathedral video

2012-02-14 Thread John Sessoms
From: David Mann I don't know if you'll be able to see this from overseas but it's worth a try. The fate of our Anglican cathedral is to be announced in a few weeks. It certainly won't be an easy decision as the implications are substantial regardless of whether they choose to demolish or repai

OT: Christchurch Cathedral video

2012-02-14 Thread David Mann
I don't know if you'll be able to see this from overseas but it's worth a try. The fate of our Anglican cathedral is to be announced in a few weeks. It certainly won't be an easy decision as the implications are substantial regardless of whether they choose to demolish or repair. http://www.3n