Re: OT: Martin Luther King Day

- Original Message - From: "Larry Levy" Subject: Re: OT: Martin Luther King Day Oops! My bad. I was looking for logic. Keep looking. William Robb

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> > From: Derby Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/01/18 Wed AM 10:36:28 GMT > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: OT: Martin Luther King Day > > P. J. Alling wrote: > > Yes, but McNamara was, (and is), an overrated idiot, and I say that > >

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P. J. Alling wrote: Yes, but McNamara was, (and is), an overrated idiot, and I say that with the greatest respect. Some people should never leave academia. During my high school and uni years, I was really interested in those times. In LA, I picked up a signed copy of McNamara's "In Retrosp

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In a message dated 1/17/2006 11:09:00 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: with two states holding out - Arizona and more surprisingly, New Hampshire. (this bit of trivia I picked up from a phone conversation today... I thought it by now had become a totally federal holiday. What a

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P. J. Alling wrote: Yes, but McNamara was, (and is), an overrated idiot, and I say that with the greatest respect. Some people should never leave academia. I don't know anything about McNamara, but your second sentence is S true!

Re: What Film? [Was: Re: OT: Martin Luther King Day]

Adam Maas wrote: Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, Shel Belinkoff wrote: [Original Message] From: Kostas Kavoussanakis http://todayspictures.slate.com/mlkday/ I really liked the pictures (not what they showed) with the hose, taken by Bob Adelman. Any idea what emulsion h

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Yes, but McNamara was, (and is), an overrated idiot, and I say that with the greatest respect. Some people should never leave academia. Shel Belinkoff wrote: The Fog of War is essentially a confession by Robert S. McNamara it's not an Oliver Stone film. Shel [Original Message] Fr

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Exactly. It's one man's perceptions, and it just happens that that man (Robert S McNamara) was in a position such that his perceptions were instrumental in shaping the presidential decisions of the time. It's available in a book as well as the film. Fascinating to read. Godfrey On Jan 17,

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Giorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 17 January 2006 15:16 > To: PDML > Subject: Re: OT: Martin Luther King Day > > I recommend the film "The Fog of War" if you want to know > more about Vietnam war era politics ... > > <http://www.amazon.com/gp/prod

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Bob Shell wrote: It took a very long time for MLK Day to be accepted here in Virginia, partially because it preempted an existing state holiday, Lee-Jackson Day. If it had been on a different day it would doubtless have been accepted sooner. Some businesses here still put up Lee-Jackson

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On Jan 17, 2006, at 2:06 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: with two states holding out - Arizona and more surprisingly, New Hampshire. (this bit of trivia I picked up from a phone conversation today... I thought it by now had become a totally federal holiday. What a shame it isnt. I don't think New

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 1/16/2006 2:42:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > What I do know is that Martin Luther King accomplished more in his 39 > years than most of us could accomplish in 10 lifetimes. No matter how > his legacy might have changed w

Re: What Film? [Was: Re: OT: Martin Luther King Day]

Well, there's PanF, and occasionally Acros, but nothing else in my world ;-) -Adam Shel Belinkoff wrote: Yes, there is Shel [Original Message] From: Adam Maas Is there anything else? -Adam Confirmed Tri-X shooter. Shel Belinkoff wrote: Tri-X Shel [Original Messag

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Neither ... assumption based on probability which is based on known facts and hearsay. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Kostas Kavoussanakis > >> http://todayspictures.slate.com/mlkday/ > >> > >> I really liked the pictures (not what they showed) with the hose, > >> taken by Bob Adelman. Any

Re: What Film? [Was: Re: OT: Martin Luther King Day]

Yes, there is Shel > [Original Message] > From: Adam Maas > Is there anything else? > > -Adam > Confirmed Tri-X shooter. > > > > Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > Tri-X > > > > Shel > > > > > > > > > >>[Original Message] > >>From: Kostas Kavoussanakis > > > > > >>http://todayspictures.s

Re: What Film? [Was: Re: OT: Martin Luther King Day]

Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, Shel Belinkoff wrote: [Original Message] From: Kostas Kavoussanakis http://todayspictures.slate.com/mlkday/ I really liked the pictures (not what they showed) with the hose, taken by Bob Adelman. Any idea what emulsion he may have used? T

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In a message dated 1/17/2006 7:47:37 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wonder how much was real and how much was political posturing against a potential rival (Johnson). After all, I dont think Johnson was out of the race at that point, right? === Johnson withdrew e

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The Fog of War is essentially a confession by Robert S. McNamara it's not an Oliver Stone film. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Kostas Kavoussanakis > On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > > I recommend the film "The Fog of War" if you want to know more about Vietnam > > wa

RE: What Film? [Was: Re: OT: Martin Luther King Day]

On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, Shel Belinkoff wrote: [Original Message] From: Kostas Kavoussanakis http://todayspictures.slate.com/mlkday/ I really liked the pictures (not what they showed) with the hose, taken by Bob Adelman. Any idea what emulsion he may have used? Tri-X Shel Thanks. Guess or c

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On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I recommend the film "The Fog of War" if you want to know more about Vietnam war era politics ... or http://tinyurl.com/c4

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frank theriault wrote: On 1/16/06, Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Had [RFK] done so, I think he'd have beaten Nixon. I'm not so sure about that one. Nixon's message was getting out of vietnam. I disagree. Nixon's slogan was "peace with honour", IIRC. That meant that he wasn't about

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Absolutely! While not the final word on the subject (what would be), it's an amazing and informative document. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi > I recommend the film "The Fog of War" if you want to know more about > Vietnam war era politics ... > >

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On 1/16/06, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not taking anything away from what you said Frank. But I wonder... if they hadn't been assasinated, would they be viewed as such stellar figures? We shall never know as their works ended abrubtly. Andd Frank replied> You're right. Here's my tho

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I recommend the film "The Fog of War" if you want to know more about Vietnam war era politics ... or http://tinyurl.com/c4eqj Godfrey On Jan 17, 2006, at 5:20 AM,

Re: What Film? [Was: Re: OT: Martin Luther King Day]

Is there anything else? -Adam Confirmed Tri-X shooter. Shel Belinkoff wrote: Tri-X Shel [Original Message] From: Kostas Kavoussanakis http://todayspictures.slate.com/mlkday/ I really liked the pictures (not what they showed) with the hose, taken by Bob Adelman. Any idea what emu

RE: What Film? [Was: Re: OT: Martin Luther King Day]

Tri-X Shel > [Original Message] > From: Kostas Kavoussanakis > http://todayspictures.slate.com/mlkday/ > > I really liked the pictures (not what they showed) with the hose, > taken by Bob Adelman. Any idea what emulsion he may have used?

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On 1/16/06, Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Had [RFK] > > done so, I think he'd have beaten Nixon. > > I'm not so sure about that one. Nixon's message was getting out of > vietnam. I disagree. Nixon's slogan was "peace with honour", IIRC. That meant that he wasn't about to just pull out un

What Film? [Was: Re: OT: Martin Luther King Day]

On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://todayspictures.slate.com/mlkday/ I really liked the pictures (not what they showed) with the hose, taken by Bob Adelman. Any idea what emulsion he may have used? I know there are many more parameters than emulsion involved and that this

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> > From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/01/17 Tue AM 05:18:10 GMT > To: > Subject: Re: OT: Martin Luther King Day > > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: OT: Martin Luth

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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006, Tom C wrote: Not taking anything away from what you said Frank. But I wonder... if they hadn't been assasinated, would they be viewed as such stellar figures? That's a problem for the assassins as well as everyone else. Kostas

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- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OT: Martin Luther King Day . Clinton is a choir boy Paul I heard he started off as a Baritone. Wonder what made him go Sax.:-) He didn't do so well with the harmonica William Robb

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Paul, I remember the march in Cicero, Illinois. I wish that I had met the man. He pushed our boundaries at a time we needed them to be pushed. He was truely fearless and right in his wishes for us all. Regards, Bob S. On 1/16/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, powerful words fro

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. Clinton is a choir boy > Paul I heard he started off as a Baritone. Wonder what made him go Sax.:-) Dave

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frank theriault wrote: Today's Martin Luther King Day in the USA, no? Yes.

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Yes, powerful words from a dedicated man. I was able to shake his hand one afternoon in the mid sixties when he led a march in Cicero, Illinois. I wish I had been carrying a camera that day. Paul On Jan 16, 2006, at 5:02 PM, frank thyingeriault wrote: Today's Martin Luther King Day in the USA,

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In a message dated 1/16/2006 2:42:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What I do know is that Martin Luther King accomplished more in his 39 years than most of us could accomplish in 10 lifetimes. No matter how his legacy might have changed were he not assassinated, his life spe

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On 1/16/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I doubt that RFK would have pulled out of Viet Nam sooner than Nixon > didl. He might even have stepped up the military effort. The Kennedys > were a pretty aggressive lot in those days. His philandering probably > would have gotten him in tro

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frank theriault wrote: On 1/16/06, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not taking anything away from what you said Frank. But I wonder... if they hadn't been assasinated, would they be viewed as such stellar figures? We shall never know as their works ended abrubtly. You're right. Here's

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Yes, powerful words from a dedicated man. I was able to shake his hand one afternoon in the mid sixties when he led a march in Cicero, Illinois. I wish I had been carrying a camera that day. Paul On Jan 16, 2006, at 5:02 PM, frank theriault wrote: Today's Martin Luther King Day in the USA, no?

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I doubt that RFK would have pulled out of Viet Nam sooner than Nixon didl. He might even have stepped up the military effort. The Kennedys were a pretty aggressive lot in those days. His philandering probably would have gotten him in trouble at some point. The Marilyn Monroe stories wold have g

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On 1/16/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Frank, > > In that case, have you had a look at Magnum photos this week? > > http://todayspictures.slate.com/mlkday/ > Thanks, Derby. Those are most inspiring. It still brings tears to my eyes when I see photographs of peaceful protes

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On 1/16/06, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not taking anything away from what you said Frank. But I wonder... if they > hadn't been assasinated, would they be viewed as such stellar figures? We > shall never know as their works ended abrubtly. > You're right. Here's my thoughts (not that yo

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Hi Frank, In that case, have you had a look at Magnum photos this week? http://todayspictures.slate.com/mlkday/ Derby Quoting frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Today's Martin Luther King Day in the USA, no? > > I was going to say "Happy MLK Day", but I don't know if that's > appropriate

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pdml.net To: PDML Subject: OT: Martin Luther King Day Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:02:26 -0500 Today's Martin Luther King Day in the USA, no? I was going to say "Happy MLK Day", but I don't know if that's appropriate, although I suppose the day is (among other thin

OT: Martin Luther King Day

Today's Martin Luther King Day in the USA, no? I was going to say "Happy MLK Day", but I don't know if that's appropriate, although I suppose the day is (among other things) a celebration of the man and his accomplishments. Whatever the appropriate greeting might be, Martin Luther King Jr. was an