Re: Periodic OT anti-Micro$oft rant (was RE: OT - British PM)

2009-02-27 Thread John Sessoms
From: Subash On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 3:36 AM, Adam Maas wrote: > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Bran Everseeking > wrote: >> to get windows 95 preloads at a "partner" rate ibm was required by MS to >> not market WARP. what theyt laked was the balls to take on ms at that >> time. > One

Re: Periodic OT anti-Micro$oft rant (was RE: OT - British PM)

2009-02-27 Thread Subash
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 3:36 AM, Adam Maas wrote: > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Bran Everseeking > wrote: >> to get windows 95 preloads at a "partner" rate ibm was required by MS to >> not market WARP. what theyt laked was the balls to take on ms at that >> time. > One major factor that l

Re: Periodic OT anti-Micro$oft rant (was RE: OT - British PM)

2009-02-26 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Feb 26, 2009, at 14:41 , Cotty wrote: On 26/2/09, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Cotty wrote: On 26/2/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: Does modern commercial video equipment include image stabilization? ? Do you mean 'professional' ? If so, no. Yeah, the Ste

Re: Periodic OT anti-Micro$oft rant (was RE: OT - British PM)

2009-02-26 Thread Joseph McAllister
February 2009 10:16 AM > To: pentax list > Subject: Re: OT - British PM > > On 23/2/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >Comes up with a message box that sez I gotta' use Internet Exploder to > >watch it. > > It's a crap website. I can wa

Re: Periodic OT anti-Micro$oft rant (was RE: OT - British PM)

2009-02-26 Thread Paul Stenquist
Don't you shoot some handheld work as well? When I was producing a lot of commercials, we'd occasionally go for a handheld, moving camera look. And I see sometimes see news clips that move through crowds or record other active events that appear to be shot handheld -- or shoulder held as it

Re: Periodic OT anti-Micro$oft rant (was RE: OT - British PM)

2009-02-26 Thread Cotty
On 26/2/09, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: >Cotty wrote: >> On 26/2/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: >> >>> Does modern commercial video equipment include image stabilization? >> >> ? >> >> Do you mean 'professional' ? >> >> If so, no. > >Yeah, the Steadicam is an optional

Re: Periodic OT anti-Micro$oft rant (was RE: OT - British PM)

2009-02-26 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote: On 26/2/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: Does modern commercial video equipment include image stabilization? ? Do you mean 'professional' ? If so, no. Yeah, the Steadicam is an optional accessory. :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.ne

Re: Periodic OT anti-Micro$oft rant (was RE: OT - British PM)

2009-02-26 Thread Cotty
On 26/2/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: >Does modern commercial video equipment include image stabilization? ? Do you mean 'professional' ? If so, no. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com ___

Re: Periodic OT anti-Micro$oft rant (was RE: OT - British PM)

2009-02-26 Thread Adam Maas
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Bran Everseeking wrote: > On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 13:27:22 -0500 > John Sessoms wrote: > >> Anyway, OS/2 had great technology and no marketing, and was buried by >> Microsoft's fantastic marketing of their nonexistent technology. >> Frickin' IBM couldn't sell ice-wate

Re: Periodic OT anti-Micro$oft rant (was RE: OT - British PM)

2009-02-26 Thread Bran Everseeking
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 13:27:22 -0500 John Sessoms wrote: > Anyway, OS/2 had great technology and no marketing, and was buried by > Microsoft's fantastic marketing of their nonexistent technology. > Frickin' IBM couldn't sell ice-water in hell. to get windows 95 preloads at a "partner" rate ibm w

Re: Periodic OT anti-Micro$oft rant (was RE: OT - British PM)

2009-02-26 Thread Carlos Royo
John Mullan escribió: On the topic of OS/2, I still have it running on my desktop. So do I. I'm writing this using a computer running OS/2 4.5 Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the

Re: Periodic OT anti-Micro$oft rant (was RE: OT - British PM)

2009-02-26 Thread John Mullan
On the topic of OS/2, I still have it running on my desktop. jm - Original Message - From: "John Sessoms" To: Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 1:27 PM Subject: Periodic OT anti-Micro$oft rant (was RE: OT - British PM) From: Anthony Farr > -Original Message-

Re: Periodic OT anti-Micro$oft rant (was RE: OT - British PM)

2009-02-26 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Feb 26, 2009, at 1:27 PM, John Sessoms wrote: Does modern commercial video equipment include image stabilization? Yes, even the hobbyist cameras are so equipped. My little Sony video cam is stabilized. It's a near top of the line minicam from the pre-HD era. I used it in a boat to shoo

Periodic OT anti-Micro$oft rant (was RE: OT - British PM)

2009-02-26 Thread John Sessoms
From: Anthony Farr > -Original Message- > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > Cotty > Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 10:16 AM > To: pentax list > Subject: Re: OT - British PM > > On 23/2/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, un

Re: OT - British PM

2009-02-25 Thread Cotty
On 24/2/09, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed: >I can't watch it with -either- FF or Safari on my Mac. I have Flip4Mac installed, so that could be why I can view it in Safari. The free player is sufficient and enables viewing of the majority of Windows-centric sites:

Re: OT - British PM

2009-02-24 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote: Bob, I can only apologise - the website is atrocious. I could only view it from recently as Macs were not supported. From this I could only conclude that they *like* Mac users. :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to U

Re: OT - British PM

2009-02-24 Thread Rick Womer
I can't watch it with -either- FF or Safari on my Mac. Rick --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Cotty wrote: > From: Cotty > Subject: Re: OT - British PM > To: "pentax list" > Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 6:16 PM > On 23/2/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: >

Re: OT - British PM

2009-02-24 Thread Cotty
On 24/2/09, Joseph McAllister, discombobulated, unleashed: >Our TV folks would never find any high office person, let alone the >President, riding to work, or anywhere, on a scheduled train. >Somebody'd shoot 'em. Security was very tight. They had the entire carriage, and stations at both ends o

RE: OT - British PM

2009-02-24 Thread Bob W
it's not unusual to see politicians and other prominent people on the tube (ie subway, not TV tube) here. Not usually the front bench politicians because most of them have police protection, but I have seen Nigel Lawson, former Chancellor of the Exchequer (finance minister) several times. A surpris

Re: OT - British PM

2009-02-24 Thread Joseph McAllister
Our TV folks would never find any high office person, let alone the President, riding to work, or anywhere, on a scheduled train. Somebody'd shoot 'em. On Feb 24, 2009, at 15:47 , Bob Sullivan wrote: John, I know about trains. Point is, our TV folks wouldn't do a 9 minute interview in such

Re: OT - British PM

2009-02-24 Thread Cotty
On 24/2/09, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: >it's a really dismal website. I'd like to watch Cotty's video, I really >would, so this evening I finally gave in and enabled cookies - I use Google >Chrome - but it still wouldn't play the video. Something about a function >being disabled. > >I can

Re: OT - British PM

2009-02-24 Thread Cotty
On 24/2/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: >Well, other than the NE corridor between DC and NYC there aren't that >many trains; certainly not any that you could actually use for business. >Over there, they have like 3 - 4 trains a day most places. Depends on the route. Our railways pal

Re: OT - British PM

2009-02-24 Thread Bob Sullivan
John, I know about trains. Point is, our TV folks wouldn't do a 9 minute interview in such a difficult setting with such a prominent politician. It would be a more set-up environment - studio, office, home, etc. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 5:16 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > Well, other

RE: OT - British PM

2009-02-24 Thread Bob W
> > On Feb 23, 2009, at 6:38 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: > > > Doesn't work with Safari 3.2.1. It doesn't recognize that I have > > Cookies turned on, and it doesn't show a scroll bar next to > the long > > message explaining how to set cooky preferences. I know how to get > > around the missin

Re: OT - British PM

2009-02-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 23, 2009, at 6:38 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: Doesn't work with Safari 3.2.1. It doesn't recognize that I have Cookies turned on, and it doesn't show a scroll bar next to the long message explaining how to set cooky preferences. I know how to get around the missing scrollbar, but as I mov

Re: OT - British PM

2009-02-24 Thread John Sessoms
Well, other than the NE corridor between DC and NYC there aren't that many trains; certainly not any that you could actually use for business. Over there, they have like 3 - 4 trains a day most places. From: Bob Sullivan Cotty, Interesting interview and a somewhat difficult location to shoot i

Re: OT - British PM

2009-02-24 Thread Cotty
On 24/2/09, eactiv...@aol.com, discombobulated, unleashed: >Pretty impressive, Cotty. Sorry, I could only take a few seconds, less than >a minute, of the actual video (er, stand watching it). But pretty impressive >you shot it. Thanx Marnie. Occasionally they throw something big my way. The jo

Re: OT - British PM

2009-02-24 Thread Ken Waller
But do they tingle? Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Cotty" Subject: Re: OT - British PM On 23/2/09, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: I bet your legs are tired. Only because I was late for the train ;-) -- Chee

Re: OT - British PM

2009-02-24 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/24/2009 9:36:15 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, cotty...@mac.com writes: > I bet your legs are tired. Only because I was late for the train ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty = Pretty impressive, Cotty. Sorry, I could only take a few seconds, less than a minute, of the actua

Re: OT - British PM

2009-02-24 Thread Cotty
On 23/2/09, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: > I bet your legs are tired. Only because I was late for the train ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss M

RE: OT - British PM

2009-02-23 Thread Anthony Farr
> -Original Message- > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > David Savage > > Actually there is a Safari for windoze out now. > > DS > Can't hurt to look into it then. Thanks for the heads-up, Dave. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT - British PM

2009-02-23 Thread David Savage
2009/2/24 Anthony Farr : > Interestingly, the system detection told me I was using Safari in Windows NT > 5.1 (I'm actually on WinXP Home.  Apparently (in my untrained estimation) > Chrome is a Safari based browser even though there's no Safari for Windows. Actually there is a Safari for windoze o

RE: OT - British PM

2009-02-23 Thread Anthony Farr
> -Original Message- > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > Cotty > Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 10:16 AM > To: pentax list > Subject: Re: OT - British PM > > On 23/2/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: > >

Re: OT - British PM

2009-02-23 Thread Bob Sullivan
Cotty, Interesting interview and a somewhat difficult location to shoot in. 9 minutes with two cameras in a moving train. Not anything we see over here. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Cotty wrote: > In London last night, up before dawn this morning for a 2 camera shoot > on boa

Re: OT - British PM

2009-02-23 Thread Christine Aguila
From: "Cotty" In London last night, up before dawn this morning for a 2 camera shoot on board a train. My camera is on the P.M That's Thatcher, Major, Blair and Brown, to date :-) Fun to see, Cotty, and great job--and I agree with

Re: OT - British PM

2009-02-23 Thread Paul Sorenson
I watched on a Windows box w/Firefox - you have to not only set FF to accept cookies, you also have to enable it to accept third party cookies. -p John Sessoms wrote: From: Cotty In London last night, up before dawn this morning for a 2 camera shoot on board a train. My camera is on the P.M..

Re: OT - British PM

2009-02-23 Thread Stan Halpin
Doesn't work with Safari 3.2.1. It doesn't recognize that I have Cookies turned on, and it doesn't show a scroll bar next to the long message explaining how to set cooky preferences. I know how to get around the missing scrollbar, but as I move down the page to see what browsers they even m

Re: OT - British PM

2009-02-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 23, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Cotty wrote: In London last night, up before dawn this morning for a 2 camera shoot on board a train. My camera is on the P.M That's Thatcher, Major, Blair and Brown, to date :-) :-) Very cool. Good stea

Re: OT - British PM

2009-02-23 Thread Cotty
On 23/2/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: >Comes up with a message box that sez I gotta' use Internet Exploder to >watch it. It's a crap website. I can watch on Safari and Firefox on a Mac. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www

RE: OT - British PM

2009-02-23 Thread John Sessoms
From: Cotty In London last night, up before dawn this morning for a 2 camera shoot on board a train. My camera is on the P.M That's Thatcher, Major, Blair and Brown, to date :-) Comes up with a message box that sez I gotta' use Intern

Re: OT - British PM

2009-02-23 Thread Cotty
On 23/2/09, Brendan MacRae, discombobulated, unleashed: >Good job not getting the other camera in the shot while wobbling along. >Shoulder only, no? >Nice work! Ta guv. yessir shoulder only. Looks smooth but bumpy as hell - both the rails and the rhetoric... -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ ||

Re: OT - British PM

2009-02-23 Thread Cotty
On 23/2/09, Joseph McAllister, discombobulated, unleashed: >But oh so boring. All the worlds leader are beginning to sound the >same - use the same words - in this day and age. Tell me about it! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cotty

Re: OT - British PM

2009-02-23 Thread Brendan MacRae
Good job not getting the other camera in the shot while wobbling along. Shoulder only, no? Nice work! -Brendan --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Cotty wrote: > From: Cotty > Subject: OT - British PM > To: "pentax list" > Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 11:03 AM > In London l

Re: OT - British PM

2009-02-23 Thread Derby Chang
Cotty wrote: In London last night, up before dawn this morning for a 2 camera shoot on board a train. My camera is on the P.M That's Thatcher, Major, Blair and Brown, to date :-) -- Cheers, Cotty Well-spoken chap, isn't he? Ni

Re: OT - British PM

2009-02-23 Thread Joseph McAllister
I saw your reflection, lookin' all official... :-) Good steady shooting. Smooth and quiet train. But oh so boring. All the worlds leader are beginning to sound the same - use the same words - in this day and age. On Feb 23, 2009, at 11:03 , Cotty wrote: In London last night, up before

Re: OT - British PM

2009-02-23 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Cotty wrote: > In London last night, up before dawn this morning for a 2 camera shoot > on board a train. My camera is on the P.M > > > > That's Thatcher, Major, Blair and Brown, to date :-) VERY cool! chee

OT - British PM

2009-02-23 Thread Cotty
In London last night, up before dawn this morning for a 2 camera shoot on board a train. My camera is on the P.M That's Thatcher, Major, Blair and Brown, to date :-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche |