Re: OT Some Jewels of wisdom from Kenny Boy

2013-02-16 Thread mike wilson
On 16/02/2013 06:12, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com: On 15/02/2013 12:46 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: From his review of the Samyang 8mm f/3.5 Fisheye, which is otherwise relatively informative (yes I know, smack), then this: There really isn't anything useful you

Re: OT Some Jewels of wisdom from Kenny Boy

2013-02-16 Thread Boris Liberman
Rob, I recently had an interesting experience where I took my time and spent the effort to understand the reasoning behind certain person's sayings on the certain forum. I must say that in this very specific case, although considered pretty much a clown, this guy was talking quite sensible

Re: OT Some Jewels of wisdom from Kenny Boy

2013-02-16 Thread Bruce Walker
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 2:32 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Rob Studdert From his review of the Samyang 8mm f/3.5 Fisheye, which is otherwise relatively informative (yes I know, smack), then this: There really isn't anything

Re: OT Some Jewels of wisdom from Kenny Boy

2013-02-15 Thread Ann Sanfedele
On 2/15/2013 02:32, Bob W wrote: From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Rob Studdert From his review of the Samyang 8mm f/3.5 Fisheye, which is otherwise relatively informative (yes I know, smack), then this: There really isn't anything useful you can do with a fisheye,

Re: OT Some Jewels of wisdom from Kenny Boy

2013-02-15 Thread Bill
On 15/02/2013 12:46 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: From his review of the Samyang 8mm f/3.5 Fisheye, which is otherwise relatively informative (yes I know, smack), then this: There really isn't anything useful you can do with a fisheye, other than use the images as a basis for tweaking back to

Re: OT Some Jewels of wisdom from Kenny Boy

2013-02-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I could care less what Ken Rockwell has to say as I don't follow his site or ramblings. Fish-eye lenses can be gimmicky and cliché when over-used, like any specialist optical effect. That said, I've licensed several images made with a fish-eye and even won an award or two with photos that were

Re: OT Some Jewels of wisdom from Kenny Boy

2013-02-15 Thread Charles Robinson
On Feb 15, 2013, at 12:28 , Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: So it's easy to jeer at Ken, and you might not find fish-eye lenses particularly to your taste, but as usual sweeping generalizations are mostly just hot-air. It would have been funnier if you'd said ALL sweeping

Re: OT Some Jewels of wisdom from Kenny Boy

2013-02-15 Thread Larry Colen
On Feb 15, 2013, at 12:28 , Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: So it's easy to jeer at Ken, and you might not find fish-eye lenses particularly to your taste, but as usual sweeping generalizations are mostly just hot-air. It would have been funnier if you'd said ALL sweeping

Re: OT Some Jewels of wisdom from Kenny Boy

2013-02-15 Thread Larry Colen
From his review of the Samyang 8mm f/3.5 Fisheye, which is otherwise relatively informative (yes I know, smack), then this: There really isn't anything useful you can do with a fisheye, other than use the images as a basis for tweaking back to straight with software. If you're going to

RE: OT Some Jewels of wisdom from Kenny Boy

2013-02-15 Thread Bob W
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi I could care less what Ken Rockwell has to say as I don't follow his site or ramblings. Fish-eye lenses can be gimmicky and cliché when over-used, like any specialist optical effect. That said, I've licensed several

Re: OT Some Jewels of wisdom from Kenny Boy

2013-02-15 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: it's easy to jeer at Ken Yes. Yes it is. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above

Re: OT Some Jewels of wisdom from Kenny Boy

2013-02-15 Thread Rob Studdert
On 16 February 2013 05:28, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: I could care less what Ken Rockwell has to say as I don't follow his site or ramblings. Fish-eye lenses can be gimmicky and cliché when over-used, like any specialist optical effect. That said, I've licensed several images

RE: OT Some Jewels of wisdom from Kenny Boy

2013-02-15 Thread Bob W
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Rob Studdert [...] If a photographer can't see the potential and scope that a FE lens affords then they probably just lack creativity or a sense of adventure. There's a sweeping generalization :) Changer à tout instant d'objectif

Re: OT Some Jewels of wisdom from Kenny Boy

2013-02-15 Thread Rob Studdert
On 16 February 2013 09:26, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Changer à tout instant d'objectif photographique, c'est comme changer à tout instant de lunettes --- Robert Bresson (sounding remarkably like Henri Cartier-of that ilk) For a certain limited style of photography that may indeed be

Re: OT Some Jewels of wisdom from Kenny Boy

2013-02-15 Thread Jack Davis
It's compellingly orgasmic!   Jack From: Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 1:51 PM Subject: Re: OT Some Jewels of wisdom from Kenny Boy Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: it's easy to jeer at Ken Yes. Yes it is. -- Mark

Re: OT Some Jewels of wisdom from Kenny Boy

2013-02-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Feb 15, 2013, at 12:28 , Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: So it's easy to jeer at Ken, and you might not find fish-eye lenses particularly to your taste, but as usual sweeping generalizations are mostly just

Re: OT Some Jewels of wisdom from Kenny Boy

2013-02-15 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com: On 15/02/2013 12:46 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: From his review of the Samyang 8mm f/3.5 Fisheye, which is otherwise relatively informative (yes I know, smack), then this: There really isn't anything useful you can do with a fisheye, other than use the

OT Some Jewels of wisdom from Kenny Boy

2013-02-14 Thread Rob Studdert
From his review of the Samyang 8mm f/3.5 Fisheye, which is otherwise relatively informative (yes I know, smack), then this: There really isn't anything useful you can do with a fisheye, other than use the images as a basis for tweaking back to straight with software. If you're going to buy a

RE: OT Some Jewels of wisdom from Kenny Boy

2013-02-14 Thread Bob W
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Rob Studdert From his review of the Samyang 8mm f/3.5 Fisheye, which is otherwise relatively informative (yes I know, smack), then this: There really isn't anything useful you can do with a fisheye, other than use the images as a