On production cost (was Re: Future of DA lenses)

2005-03-30 Thread Alin Flaider
Ken, As always I appreciate your glimpses over the inside. What I find most interesting now is the hint to the build costs (point 2). I suspect a major contribution to the cost was due to having to maintain very low tolerances and this perhaps is associated with manual assembly in

Re: On production cost (was Re: Future of DA lenses)

2005-03-30 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Alin Flaider Subject: On production cost (was Re: Future of DA lenses) Anyway, a friend recently disassembled several FA consumer zooms and was horrified to find out large tolerances by design, alignment through shimming as a rule, high wear plastic guiding

Re: On production cost (was Re: Future of DA lenses)

2005-03-30 Thread KT Takeshita
On 3/30/05 6:06 AM, Alin Flaider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As always I appreciate your glimpses over the inside. What I find most interesting now is the hint to the build costs (point 2). I suspect a major contribution to the cost was due to having to maintain very low tolerances and this

Re: On production cost (was Re: Future of DA lenses)

2005-03-30 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, KT Takeshita wrote: impossible to have a butter smooth MF feeling (oh, I miss my old M50/1.4) with the AF capability :-). Unfortunately, we cannot have it in both ways. Sorry I am going on a tangent: have you tried it with the 1.7AF Adapter? AF 85/2.8 with solid metal

Re: On production cost (was Re: Future of DA lenses)

2005-03-30 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
KT Takeshita wrote on 30.03.05 15:32: Obviously, it is impossible to have a butter smooth MF feeling (oh, I miss my old M50/1.4) with the AF capability :-). Unfortunately, we cannot have it in both ways. Not true :-) There are some AF lenses, which don't move focusing ring during AF operation

Re: On production cost (was Re: Future of DA lenses)

2005-03-30 Thread Rob Studdert
On 30 Mar 2005 at 8:32, KT Takeshita wrote: I do hope that the new DFA Macros are well built, not excessively like the current one. Metal barrel is nice, but I no longer mind the plastic barrel as long as it is solidly built. It does conjure thoughts of how they might cut corners on any new

Re: On production cost (was Re: Future of DA lenses)

2005-03-30 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005, Rob Studdert wrote: I do also find it intriguing that companies like Cosina can produce very high quality lenses (optically and mechanically) then sell them at reasonable prices and still profit. Can't comment on still profit, but there is one big difference: target

Re: On production cost (was Re: Future of DA lenses)

2005-03-30 Thread KT Takeshita
On 3/30/05 9:49 AM, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It does conjure thoughts of how they might cut corners on any new WA lenses for the soon to be arriving (LOL) 645D. I wonder if it will be profitable to continue production of the current 645 lens line or maybe they are thinking they

Re: On production cost (was Re: Future of DA lenses)

2005-03-30 Thread mike wilson
Alin Flaider wrote: Ken, As always I appreciate your glimpses over the inside. What I find most interesting now is the hint to the build costs (point 2). I suspect a major contribution to the cost was due to having to maintain very low tolerances and this perhaps is associated with

Re: On production cost (was Re: Future of DA lenses)

2005-03-30 Thread Nick Clark
The 14mm f/2.8 DA is like this too, which bodes well for the future lens line-up. Nick -Original Message- From: Sylwester Pietrzyk[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30/03/05 15:13:20 Unfortunately, we cannot have it in both ways. Not true :-) There are some AF lenses, which don't

Re: On production cost (was Re: Future of DA lenses)

2005-03-30 Thread Herb Chong
none of my detailed references show them. i assume it must be because they are privately held. Herb - Original Message - From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 8:04 PM Subject: Re: On production cost (was Re: Future of DA

Re: On production cost (was Re: Future of DA lenses)

2005-03-30 Thread Rob Studdert
On 30 Mar 2005 at 21:03, Herb Chong wrote: none of my detailed references show them. i assume it must be because they are privately held. Good for them then, they don't have the tortuous weight of the investment market bearing down on them to produce unreasonable returns. Rob Studdert