Re: On subject of flare.

2006-06-19 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Jun 18, 2006 at 08:23:29PM -0600, William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" > Subject: Re: On subject of flare. > > > > > > > I have several of them that I've used as table protectors for shot > &

Re: On subject of flare.

2006-06-19 Thread David Savage
I've got a similar problem with mine. Many years ago I had the tripod set up very low to the ground. One of the clamps wasn't done up tight enough, though I thought it was. I turned away and when I turned back the head was very slowly pivoting down and stopped when the end of the lens hit a rock.

Re: On subject of flare.

2006-06-19 Thread Jostein
> As a side note... So far I couldn't find a reversing ring for 49 mm > diameter in Tel Aviv. Go figure... Pentax Norway had to order mine from Germany last year. :-) Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

RE: On subject of flare.

2006-06-19 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Bob ... And I have seen just the opposite, where neither a hood nor a filter has protected the lens from damage. But yes, buy 'em and use 'em, or not, for whatever reason floats your boat. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Bob W > > Buy and use whatever hood and filters you want for the

RE: On subject of flare.

2006-06-19 Thread Bob W
> > Buy and use whatever hood and filters you want for the > purpose they were > designed for, not for protection from a fall or impact damage. > > Shel > I think that should be changed to "Buy and use whatever hood and filters you want" for any purpose you want. Many of us have had lenses p

Re: On subject of flare.

2006-06-19 Thread John Coyle
ssage - From: "David Mann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 3:47 PM Subject: Re: On subject of flare. > On Jun 19, 2006, at 5:00 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: > >> It is only logical to prefer to have to >

Re: On subject of flare.

2006-06-19 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Impact damage is totally random. The resultant damage, or not, to a lens depends more on the intensity of the impact, the angle of the impact, the surface area of the impact, and so on, than whether or not a lens is wearing a filter or a hood. People have damaged lenses on which rubber, plastic,

Re: On subject of flare.

2006-06-18 Thread David Mann
On Jun 19, 2006, at 5:00 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: > It is only logical to prefer to have to > replace the filter than go through the hoops replacing the front > element. I think any impact that damages a filter is still likely to cause problems within the lens - especially zoom lenses which

Re: On subject of flare.

2006-06-18 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! > I was at a sales seminar many years ago. Long enough ago that smoking was > still allowed at these things. > The Pentax rep was encouraging smokers to butt their cigarettes out on a > lens that he had sitting on the table. > The SMC coating is remarkably tough. Bill, I see what you and ot

Re: On subject of flare.

2006-06-18 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! >> It would have been interesting to see how the lens fared without the >> extra UV-filter. > > Probably a lot different. I've found the 43 Limited to be exemplary > with regards to flare. Some have called it "the best lens I ever > encountered" in some flare tests: > http://luminous-landsca

Re: On subject of flare.

2006-06-18 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! > I won't use a filter on any lens, not matter how valuable, unless I > require filtration. I figure there's not much point in buying superior > lenses and then shooting through a piece of inferior glass. Even if the > filter is of optimum quality, it's adding an unnecessary element and >

Re: On subject of flare.

2006-06-18 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! > Paul Stenquist wrote: >> I won't use a filter on any lens, not matter how valuable, unless I >> require filtration. I figure there's not much point in buying superior >> lenses and then shooting through a piece of inferior glass. Even if the >> filter is of optimum quality, it's adding an

Re: On subject of flare.

2006-06-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" Subject: Re: On subject of flare. > > I have several of them that I've used as table protectors for shot > glasses. They're much more useful that way than on the front of a lens. My 600mm lens came with a 1

Re: On subject of flare.

2006-06-18 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Yeah, Leica sales reps were known for doing that as well. Shel > [Original Message] > From: William Robb > I was at a sales seminar many years ago. Long enough ago > that smoking was still allowed at these things. > The Pentax rep was encouraging smokers to butt their > cigarettes out on a

Re: On subject of flare.

2006-06-18 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I'll sometimes use a filter, although it's rare. Still, I won't give up the ones I have. I'd like to add to my "collection" of crappy filters - those with scratches, damaged glass, or in any other way useless as filters. If anyone's got such filters and would care to send them my way, please con

Re: On subject of flare.

2006-06-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Boris Liberman" Subject: Re: On subject of flare. > I realize that. However I don't take UV filters off my limited lenses as > a matter of course... It already proved once its use... Fortunately it > was merely Galia's finger, yet

Re: On subject of flare.

2006-06-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jun 18, 2006, at 6:25 PM, Powell Hargrave wrote: >> I won't use a filter on any lens, not matter how valuable, unless I >> require filtration. >> However, I can understand that >> some prefer to protect their investment. I like to buy lenses from >> those folk :-). > > And you end up with a go

Re: On subject of flare.

2006-06-18 Thread Powell Hargrave
At 10:46 AM 18/06/2006 , you wrote: > >I won't use a filter on any lens, not matter how valuable, unless I >require filtration. > However, I can understand that >some prefer to protect their investment. I like to buy lenses from >those folk :-). And you end up with a good collection of unused

Re: On subject of flare.

2006-06-18 Thread Mark Roberts
Jostein wrote: >From: "Kostas Kavoussanakis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> On Sun, 18 Jun 2006, Boris Liberman wrote: >> >>> I dare say that every lens can be forced to flare. But Pentax >>> lenses are >>> definitely more resilient. >> >> I have heard that Pentax stretch the limits of the optical form

Re: On subject of flare.

2006-06-18 Thread Ryan Brooks
Paul Stenquist wrote: > I won't use a filter on any lens, not matter how valuable, unless I > require filtration. I figure there's not much point in buying superior > lenses and then shooting through a piece of inferior glass. Even if the > filter is of optimum quality, it's adding an unnecessar

Re: On subject of flare.

2006-06-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
I won't use a filter on any lens, not matter how valuable, unless I require filtration. I figure there's not much point in buying superior lenses and then shooting through a piece of inferior glass. Even if the filter is of optimum quality, it's adding an unnecessary element and limiting the ef

Re: On subject of flare.

2006-06-18 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! > It would have been interesting to see how the lens fared without the > extra UV-filter. > > Jostein I realize that. However I don't take UV filters off my limited lenses as a matter of course... It already proved once its use... Fortunately it was merely Galia's finger, yet I prefer to

Re: On subject of flare.

2006-06-18 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: "Kostas Kavoussanakis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Sun, 18 Jun 2006, Boris Liberman wrote: > >> I dare say that every lens can be forced to flare. But Pentax >> lenses are >> definitely more resilient. > > I have heard that Pentax stretch the limits of the optic

Re: On subject of flare.

2006-06-18 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sun, 18 Jun 2006, Boris Liberman wrote: > I dare say that every lens can be forced to flare. But Pentax lenses are > definitely more resilient. I have heard that Pentax stretch the limits of the optical formula they chose for the 43. This makes it more flare-prone that you would like and exp

On subject of flare.

2006-06-17 Thread Boris Liberman
Here... Both taken yesterday evening. The lens was 43 Lim with SMC UV filter attached and hood screwed onto the filter. I'd say typical situation. Nothing extraordinary: http://boris.isra-shop.com/temp/IMGP6220.jpg (notice the artifact just below the bicycle) http://boris.isra-shop.com/temp/IM