Re: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-16 Thread John Sessoms
Somewhere up-thread someone suggested creating a PDML group on facebook. I was commenting I wouldn't see such a group if it was created on facebook because I don't use facebook. On 1/13/2023 6:01 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: I have bad news for you John. There is no PDML group there on FB. The P

Re: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-16 Thread John Sessoms
Yeah. I don't have a facebook account because I don't want a facebook account. I already have too many ways to waste time on the internet without adding facebook to them. On 1/13/2023 5:57 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: John I have an amazing suggestion that you might consider. Go to Facebook, a

Re: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-13 Thread Steve Cottrell
I have bad news for you John. There is no PDML group there on FB. The PDML is right here!! There is a separate thing - a test - maybe an ‘extension’, maybe not, called the PDFG that has 27 members and quite a disturbing amount of cormorant photographs. But I’ll shut up about it now as I don’t

Re: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-13 Thread Steve Cottrell
John I have an amazing suggestion that you might consider. Go to Facebook, and click on ‘create account’ and once you reach the part where it wants you to enter your name, why not stick an anagram in, or just make a name up? You could use the account then as basically a spoof just to view thing

Re: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-11 Thread John Sessoms
Usenet is also pretty much *DEAD*. The discussion groups have all been long ago over-run by TROLLS. There's really no chance of discussing anything there. I was just goofing when I suggested it. 🙃 Facebook is fine, but I don't have an account, so I wouldn't see a PDML group there. Hopefully t

Re: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-11 Thread John Sessoms
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet A lot of colleges & universities provided students with "news" accounts. See also: Eternal September https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Eternal%20September I got a job with a computer company in November 1994 and they introduced me to the inte

Re: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-10 Thread mike wilson
> On 11/01/2023 06:37 Larry Colen wrote: > > > > On Jan 10, 2023, at 10:15 PM, mike wilson wrote: > > > > A bang path sounds a bit scary, just to get your email. Or maybe it's a > > bit pleasurable. > > I take it you never went to an “at bang party”. 5th. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss

Re: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-10 Thread Larry Colen
> On Jan 10, 2023, at 10:15 PM, mike wilson wrote: > > A bang path sounds a bit scary, just to get your email. Or maybe it's a bit > pleasurable. I take it you never went to an “at bang party”. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from ret4est -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List T

Re: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-10 Thread mike wilson
> On 11/01/2023 01:28 Larry Colen wrote: > > > > On Jan 10, 2023, at 2:07 PM, Comcast wrote: > > > > Usenet is a relatively ancient system for posting information, messages and > > the like. It was originally phone based relying on dial up modems. It’s now > > internet based. It’s very bas

Re: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-10 Thread Larry Colen
> On Jan 10, 2023, at 7:02 PM, Comcast wrote: > > I don’t mean to disparage Usenet. Just pointing out that it’s old and now > somewhat obscure. I took no offense, besides in this group “old and now somewhat obscure” probably comes off as a glowing recommendation. > Email, by the way has ben

Re: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I was on Usenet starting in 1984 when I was working at JPL/NASA. The modern hypertext-based internet and "world wide web" dates from around 1993 when the first web browsers started to appear. That's about when I stopped looking at Usenet and other archaic-isms from the 1980s. Email lists became

Re: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-10 Thread Comcast
I don’t mean to disparage Usenet. Just pointing out that it’s old and now somewhat obscure. Email, by the way has benefited from its universality and consequently, the continuous refinement of email apps. Paul > On Jan 10, 2023, at 8:28 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > >  > >> On Jan 10, 2023, at 2

Re: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-10 Thread Larry Colen
> On Jan 10, 2023, at 2:07 PM, Comcast wrote: > > Usenet is a relatively ancient system for posting information, messages and > the like. It was originally phone based relying on dial up modems. It’s now > internet based. It’s very basic and straightforward. Although you need an > access app

Re: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-10 Thread Comcast
Usenet is a relatively ancient system for posting information, messages and the like. It was originally phone based relying on dial up modems. It’s now internet based. It’s very basic and straightforward. Although you need an access app, you don’t have to subscribe to a service like Facebook. It

Re: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-10 Thread Steve Cottrell
If I knew what a UseNet was it might help ;-) The PDFG now has 25 members and is an extension of this list - not a replacement! I will try and drive traffic to the list where I can, and promote the PUG, but to be honest it’s mostly PDML members. Sent from my flu-ridden bed! Cot On 10 Jan 202

Re: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-10 Thread John Sessoms
What about starting a Pentax UseNet group? On 1/7/2023 12:24 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: Thanks for the explanation Godders. Interesting! Cot On 7 Jan 2023, at 16:06, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: groups.io is email based … the groups.io server simply maintains the list of people to distribute the

Re: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-10 Thread John Sessoms
I'd have to get a FB account, so none here. On 1/6/2023 7:30 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: Just as a matter of interest, is there any interest in a Pentax Discussion Facebook Group? I admin a FB group with over 800 members, it’s quite fun. Photos are posted daily and response is swift. Sure, you

Re: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Doug, You have my vote of confidence and support for the fine job you've been doing with PDML. And my thanks as well. :) That said: The PDML server software is a bit primitive by modern standards. have you ever considered going to a modern mail server provider to enable users with much more m

Re: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-07 Thread mike wilson
> On 08/01/2023 00:31 David J Brooks wrote: > > > On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 6:13 PM Doug Brewer wrote: > > > I've given up on FB. If y'all had rather have someone else in charge, > > please let me know. > > > You’re doing a great job Doug > Seconded. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail Lis

Re: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-07 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 6:13 PM Doug Brewer wrote: > I've given up on FB. If y'all had rather have someone else in charge, > please let me know. You’re doing a great job Doug Dave > > > > On 1/6/23 7:30 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > Just as a matter of interest, is there any interest in a Pent

Re: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-07 Thread Steve Cottrell
Never in a thousand years! :-) Cot On 7 Jan 2023, at 23:13, Doug Brewer wrote: I've given up on FB. If y'all had rather have someone else in charge, please let me know. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML

Re: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-07 Thread Doug Brewer
I've given up on FB. If y'all had rather have someone else in charge, please let me know. On 1/6/23 7:30 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: Just as a matter of interest, is there any interest in a Pentax Discussion Facebook Group? I admin a FB group with over 800 members, it’s quite fun. Photos are p

Re: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-07 Thread Steve Cottrell
Thanks for the explanation Godders. Interesting! Cot On 7 Jan 2023, at 16:06, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: groups.io is email based … the groups.io server simply maintains the list of people to distribute the emails to and transmits the emails you send to the list, plus whatever attachments etc,

Re: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Hi Cotty, groups.io is email based … the groups.io server simply maintains the list of people to distribute the emails to and transmits the emails you send to the list, plus whatever attachments etc, you want to put in your emails. An administrator simply manages the list (which is also able to

Re: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-07 Thread mike wilson
There's also forumotion.com Forums are not email based and there is usually a free image server associated with each one, or you can link to your own hosting or a proprietary image hoster. > On 07/01/2023 10:31 Steve Cottrell wrote: > > > Ah! I don’t know anything about groups.io - how does

Re: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-07 Thread Steve Cottrell
Ah! I don’t know anything about groups.io - how does it work? Is it email based? Can one share images without having to place them on a server like Flickr etc? Will visit and have a look. Cot On 7 Jan 2023, at 04:34, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: If the goal of a proposed FB group is to allow mode

Re: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-07 Thread Steve Cottrell
I understand completely. In bed with the devil has its moments tho!! Cot On 7 Jan 2023, at 01:42, Bill wrote: Sorry Steve, not going anywhere near crackbook. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visi

Re: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-07 Thread Steve Cottrell
Aah - thanks Lar Cot On 7 Jan 2023, at 00:51, Larry Colen wrote: No, the Pentaxian group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/155414957979206 -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly a

Re: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-07 Thread Ralf R Radermacher
Am 07.01.23 um 06:50 schrieb John Francis: Not from me. I don't (and won't) do facebook - I just find far too annoying. Same here. Never have, never will. I've seen a number of interesting discussion groups on audio-related topics go that way and I still miss them. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermac

Re: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-07 Thread Ralf R Radermacher
Am 07.01.23 um 01:30 schrieb Steve Cottrell: Just as a matter of interest, is there any interest in a Pentax Discussion Facebook Group? No. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Fot

Re: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-06 Thread mike wilson
> On 07/01/2023 01:42 Bill wrote: > > > On 1/6/2023 6:47 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > Oh really? > > > > Here’s a test: > > > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/482940207253506 > > > > See if it garners any interest… > > > > If not, it will be killed off. > > > > Just a thought. > > > > Cotty

Re: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-06 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Jan 07, 2023 at 12:30:07AM +, Steve Cottrell wrote: > Just as a matter of interest, is there any interest in a Pentax Discussion > Facebook Group? Not from me. I don't (and won't) do facebook - I just find far too annoying. But there again I'm not doing a lot of Pentax stuff nowaday

Re: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Personally, I detest FB. I only have an account there because there is a contingent of old friends who have seemingly lost the ability to communicate any other way ( including answering the telephone without messaging them on FB first...!). Ugh. I'm there, in essence, because I value my old frie

Re: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-06 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I think the idea has merit. Dan Matyola *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery * On Fri, Jan 6, 2023 at 7:30 PM Steve Cottrell wrote: > Just as a matter of interest, is there any interest in a Pentax Discussion > Facebook Group? > > I admin a FB group

Re: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-06 Thread Larry Colen
> On Jan 6, 2023, at 6:15 PM, wrote: > > I use FB for other interests, and yes, it is far more active in the main. > Some groups may go a few days without a post, others multiple posts daily. > Of course, Gen Z (or is it now Gen AA) decry FB, but I'm happy for them to > use their Tik-Tok et

RE: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-06 Thread jcoyle
n a Pentax FB group like a shot, and might even post more images! John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: Steve Cottrell Sent: Saturday, 7 January 2023 10:30 AM To: pentax list Subject: PDML - PDFG ? Just as a matter of interest, is there any interest in a Pentax Discussion Face

Re: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-06 Thread Bill
On 1/6/2023 6:47 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: Oh really? Here’s a test: https://www.facebook.com/groups/482940207253506 See if it garners any interest… If not, it will be killed off. Just a thought. Cotty Sorry Steve, not going anywhere near crackbook. bill -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Ma

Re: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-06 Thread Larry Colen
> On Jan 6, 2023, at 4:48 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > Which one - this one? 'Pentaxian Street photography’ ? No, the Pentaxian group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/155414957979206 > > Cot > > > On 7 Jan 2023, at 00:34, David J Brooks wrote: > > There is a pentaxian fb group > -- > %

Re: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-06 Thread Steve Cottrell
Which one - this one? 'Pentaxian Street photography’ ? Cot On 7 Jan 2023, at 00:34, David J Brooks wrote: There is a pentaxian fb group -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly abo

Re: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-06 Thread Steve Cottrell
Oh really? Here’s a test: https://www.facebook.com/groups/482940207253506 See if it garners any interest… If not, it will be killed off. Just a thought. Cotty On 7 Jan 2023, at 00:34, David J Brooks wrote: There is a pentaxian fb group -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscr

Re: PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-06 Thread David J Brooks
There is a pentaxian fb group On Fri, Jan 6, 2023 at 7:30 PM Steve Cottrell wrote: > Just as a matter of interest, is there any interest in a Pentax Discussion > Facebook Group? > > I admin a FB group with over 800 members, it’s quite fun. Photos are > posted daily and response is swift. Sure, y

PDML - PDFG ?

2023-01-06 Thread Steve Cottrell
Just as a matter of interest, is there any interest in a Pentax Discussion Facebook Group? I admin a FB group with over 800 members, it’s quite fun. Photos are posted daily and response is swift. Sure, you battle with the evil that is Meta, but if one is selective about viewing habits, it becom