Re: PUG vs PAW

2004-07-27 Thread David Mann
On Jul 27, 2004, at 8:36 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote: Thoughts? I must admit that since I started doing PAWs I haven't done a single PUG. I kept missing PUG deadlines because I'd keep forgetting about it. Now it's just part of my regular weekly routine. Another thing that attracts me to PAW is

Re: PUG vs PAW

2004-07-27 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Since the intial post is well-known, I am going to skip (most of) it. I remember when I joined the list about 2 years ago... The discussion of photography as such as I recall it was close to nil. Eventually I started submitting to PUG and some time, perhaps a year ago there was an

Re: PUG vs PAW

2004-07-27 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Boris, It isn't my intention to modify PUG or PAW (I like PESO better), just a comment on the seeming lack of value/interest in the PUG - especially since we started doing PAW. I wasn't thinking anything about a competition of sorts, just perhaps a way to make the PUG be of more interest

Re: PUG vs PAW

2004-07-27 Thread DagT
I agree with you regarding competition. Usually, I skip any competition without a beer closely related to it :-) One reason that hasnĀ“t been mentioned is that few of us, if any, are able to produce a really good photograph each week or month. The reason why I show pictures is to get better,

Re: PUG vs PAW

2004-07-27 Thread Bernd Scheffler
I like the PUG the way it is/was - a theme per month (no need for the added open gallery part, though). I am looking forward every time a month is ending to see the new gallery. PAW is for a moment, and than gone. I sometimes go back to elder PUG-galleries to look for pictures made with special

RE: PUG vs PAW

2004-07-27 Thread Steve Desjardins
I've had real problems submitting things to PUG. I assume I keep getting the old submission page and my file is just to going off to some computer in the Homeland Security Office. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX:

Re: PUG vs PAW

2004-07-27 Thread frank theriault
--- David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Another thing that attracts me to PAW is that I'm allowed to choose any image I like regardless of equipment or theme. I like the flexibility and control. snip David, Don't forget, PUG now has an open gallery each month (not alternating

Re: PUG vs PAW

2004-07-26 Thread frank theriault
--- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I am quite happy with the concept of the PAW, I can't help but feel that to some degree, it has caused all of us to lose interest in the PUG. If you were to look at the number of posts about the PUG, you'd see that it has dropped quite a bit

Re: PUG vs PAW

2004-07-26 Thread frank theriault
--- Antonio Aparicio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bruce, had you thought of perhaps approaching Pentax and asking them if they would be willing to support the PUG b way of some freebies each year to the best image or images voted on by PDML members? May be a way to drum up a bit of

Re: PUG vs PAW

2004-07-26 Thread Rob Studdert
On 26 Jul 2004 at 17:43, frank theriault wrote: As far as the prize aspect goes, last time it was brought up and discussed, I believe a prevailing theme was that PUG isn't a contest, and most didn't want it to become one. It might be seen as a disincentive to post, by some, if they felt the

RE: PUG vs PAW

2004-07-26 Thread Don Sanderson
-Original Message- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 4:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PUG vs PAW --- Antonio Aparicio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bruce, had you thought of perhaps approaching Pentax and asking them

Re: PUG vs PAW

2004-07-26 Thread graywolf
I think there are a couple of things going on. First is the problems that we have had with komkon these past few months. Second is that it is summer for most of the list. Strangely enough folks tend to be out taking photos (and doing other interesting things) in the summer instead of sitting

RE: PUG vs PAW

2004-07-26 Thread frank theriault
--- Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:snip OTOH if a little competition *WAS* wanted an anonymous vote could be taken each month and the winner would have his entry featured in the next months PUG as Most popular pic of last month. The only real rule being that one person could only

RE: PUG vs PAW

2004-07-26 Thread Don Sanderson
- From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 5:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PUG vs PAW On 26 Jul 2004 at 17:43, frank theriault wrote: As far as the prize aspect goes, last time it was brought up and discussed, I believe a prevailing theme

Re: PUG vs PAW

2004-07-26 Thread Antonio Aparicio
What about some form of php driven feedback system on the PUG itself whereby PDMLers could comment directly on an image a la photosig.com? Perhaps by interacting more with the PUG site there would be more traffic and interaction with its content. With the PAWs because an image is linked