Re: Pentax Mirrorless

2020-11-17 Thread P. J. Alling
If it was only 10 bucks I'd have bought it already... On 11/17/2020 5:58 AM, Alan C wrote: P J, you're probably right. I was only thinking of the sensor. If I can get one for ten bucks, I'll take it! Alan C On 16-Nov-20 10:38 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: it always looked more like a mirrorless K-5

Re: Pentax Mirrorless

2020-11-17 Thread Mark C
I converted my K01 to infrared and use it quite a bit. I use an inexpensive XIT LCD Loup as a finder - makes the camera rather cumbersome but works well. K01 image quality is very close to the K5, which is to say excellent. But the ergonomics are not good. It's still a useful camera and when I

Re: Pentax Mirrorless

2020-11-17 Thread Alan C
P J, you're probably right. I was only thinking of the sensor. If I can get one for ten bucks, I'll take it! Alan C On 16-Nov-20 10:38 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: it always looked more like a mirrorless K-500 with a lot of lipstick than a K-5. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net htt

Re: Pentax Mirrorless

2020-11-16 Thread Larry Colen
> On Nov 16, 2020, at 12:38 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > > He wasn't the only one to suggest such a thing, when the K-01 and Q series > were both in production, if Pentax had supplied an auxiliary EVF that could > be used on both cameras instead of spending the money on a name brand > designer

Re: Pentax Mirrorless

2020-11-16 Thread Stanley Halpin
There is also a black one available… https://www.amazon.com/Pentax-K-01-Mirrorless-Body-Black/dp/B0076396OA I like the yellow one I bought used from a list member. When I use that people are less likely to think t

Re: Pentax Mirrorless

2020-11-16 Thread P. J. Alling
He wasn't the only one to suggest such a thing, when the K-01 and Q series were both in production, if Pentax had supplied an auxiliary EVF that could be used on both cameras instead of spending the money on a name brand designer, there would have been some synergy between the two lines, and I

Re: Pentax Mirrorless

2020-11-16 Thread Rick Womer
I wasn’t proposing that Pentax enter the mirrorless market (again). I was just saying that this will cut into sales of Pentax DSLRs to people who already own Pentax lenses. Unless, of course, Pentax licensed the technology for the mount to Monster, and can collect royalties equivalent to the pr

Re: Pentax Mirrorless

2020-11-16 Thread Alan C
Well said, Bill! Sounds good for Pentax. Alan C On 16-Nov-20 06:41 PM, Bill wrote: Pentax has become an also ran in the (D)SLR market. They would already be an also ran in the mirrorless camera market if they introduced a camera last March (8 months ago). They have nothing to gain by going aft

Re: Pentax Mirrorless

2020-11-16 Thread Bill
Pentax has become an also ran in the (D)SLR market. They would already be an also ran in the mirrorless camera market if they introduced a camera last March (8 months ago). They have nothing to gain by going after a market that is already saturated, especially with camera sales in freefall. Sony

Pentax Mirrorless

2020-11-15 Thread Alan C
I've tried to respond to Rick's comment three times but it somehow doesn't get to the PDML. Now I've tries some heavy pruning. Pentax did venture into the mirrorless realm with the K-01, essentially a k-mount mirrorless K5 - much bigger than a 4/3. Brian Walters feels it was a missed opportuni

Re: Pentax Mirrorless: This is interesting

2011-02-04 Thread John Sessoms
From: "P. J. Alling" If it weren't such a technical tour de force the Auto 110 would have been a joke as well, and interchangeable lens camera aimed directly the same market segment. I just don't think that the market allows this kind of quirkiness these days. I'm sure the market "allows" it.

Re: Pentax Mirrorless: This is interesting

2011-02-04 Thread Steven Desjardins
You mean like brightly colored DSLRs. ;-) Again, I think these things might sell in Japan, which is just fine with Pentax. No expert opinion here, just my noting the Japanese fetish with technogoodies over the years. On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote: > Mark Robertswrote: >

Re: Pentax Mirrorless: This is interesting

2011-02-04 Thread Dario Bonazza
Mark Robertswrote: An interchangeable-lens camera aimed at the market segment that's least interested in interchangeable lenses. Mark! (and my thought exactly) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please vi

RE: Pentax Mirrorless: This is interesting

2011-02-04 Thread Bob W
> If it weren't such a technical tour de force the Auto 110 would have > been a joke as well, and interchangeable lens camera aimed directly the > same market segment. I just don't think that the market allows this > kind of quirkiness these days. I suspect it does. Look at the interest the Fuji

Re: Pentax Mirrorless: This is interesting

2011-02-04 Thread P. J. Alling
If it weren't such a technical tour de force the Auto 110 would have been a joke as well, and interchangeable lens camera aimed directly the same market segment. I just don't think that the market allows this kind of quirkiness these days. On 2/4/2011 9:53 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Mark Robert

Re: Pentax Mirrorless: This is interesting

2011-02-04 Thread Mark Roberts
Mark Roberts wrote: >Bob W wrote: > >>> 'interesting' might be one word for it. 'Not in the least bit' would >>> be another five. >> >>I hope Mark! is interested in that. > >Oh my, yes. And by the way, I agree with the sentiment. This has to be some kind of joke Pentax is playing on rumor-mongers

Re: Pentax Mirrorless: This is interesting

2011-02-04 Thread Steven Desjardins
Your going to really like that lens. I have it on my E-P1. That m43 package is very addictive. On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 2:29 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote: > Steven Desjardins wrote: > >> This is interesting and surprising: >> >> http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/pentax-mirrorle

Re: Pentax Mirrorless: This is interesting

2011-02-04 Thread Steven Desjardins
gt;> >> Steven Desjardins wrote on Thu, 03 Feb 2011 17:15:43 -0800 >> >>> and surprising: >>> >>> http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/pentax-mirrorless-system-with-ultratiny-sensor-5x/ >>> >>> There are still rumors that they also plan a differen

Re: Pentax Mirrorless: This is interesting

2011-02-04 Thread Dario Bonazza
Dario Bonazza wrote: My Panny GF1+20mm is arriving today. Got it! Bunga bunga ;-) Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Pentax Mirrorless: This is interesting

2011-02-04 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W wrote: >> 'interesting' might be one word for it. 'Not in the least bit' would >> be >> another five. > >I hope Mark! is interested in that. Oh my, yes. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/ma

RE: Pentax Mirrorless: This is interesting

2011-02-04 Thread Bob W
> 'interesting' might be one word for it. 'Not in the least bit' would > be > another five. I hope Mark! is interested in that. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and

Re: Pentax Mirrorless: This is interesting

2011-02-04 Thread Michael Beacom
do for me nicely. The system as described in this rumor seems very much like a still- born product to me. Boris On 2/4/2011 3:15 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: and surprising: http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/pentax-mirrorless-system-with- ultratiny-sensor-5x/ There are still rumors that

Re: Pentax Mirrorless: This is interesting

2011-02-04 Thread Peter Loveday
'interesting' might be one word for it. 'Not in the least bit' would be another five. At least, not to me. Now if it were APS-C... - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directl

Re: Pentax Mirrorless: This is interesting

2011-02-04 Thread Thibouille
p://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/pentax-mirrorless-system-with-ultratiny-sensor-5x/ > > To me, it looks like a Chicken Little system. Not interesting at all. > My Panny GF1+20mm is arriving today. > > Dario > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://

Re: Pentax Mirrorless: This is interesting

2011-02-03 Thread Dario Bonazza
Steven Desjardins wrote: This is interesting and surprising: http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/pentax-mirrorless-system-with-ultratiny-sensor-5x/ To me, it looks like a Chicken Little system. Not interesting at all. My Panny GF1+20mm is arriving today. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Pentax Mirrorless: This is interesting

2011-02-03 Thread Boris Liberman
surprising: http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/pentax-mirrorless-system-with-ultratiny-sensor-5x/ There are still rumors that they also plan a different system with a bigger sensor. My theory is they hope to sell a bunch of these in japan and do as well as they can elsewhere. (What do I, know after all

Re: Pentax Mirrorless: This is interesting

2011-02-03 Thread Boris Liberman
On 2/4/2011 6:32 AM, Stan Halpin wrote: I would like to see Pentax in the micro 4/3 arena. With a good image processing engine, good lenses, and a good design team all they lack is experience in building an EVF. And rather than creating a new niche mount, sensor, etc, they would be competing in a

Re: Pentax Mirrorless: This is interesting

2011-02-03 Thread Stan Halpin
know after >> all ;-) > > > I don't have any telephone to the future, but I'd be mighty surprised if this > thing ever surfaces. Pentax almost went broke trying to invent new market > segments back in the day; I highly doubt that Hoya will let them chase after &g

Re: Pentax Mirrorless: This is interesting

2011-02-03 Thread Jim King
Steven Desjardins wrote on Thu, 03 Feb 2011 17:15:43 -0800 > and surprising: > > http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/pentax-mirrorless-system-with-ultratiny-sensor-5x/ > > There are still rumors that they also plan a different system with a > bigger sensor. My theory is they ho

Re: Pentax Mirrorless: This is interesting

2011-02-03 Thread Larry Colen (Droid Mail)
I would think. > >On Feb 3, 2011, at 8:15 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: > >> and surprising: >> >http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/pentax-mirrorless-system-with-ultratiny-sensor-5x/ >> >> There are still rumors that they also plan a different system with a >> bi

Re: Pentax Mirrorless: This is interesting

2011-02-03 Thread Larry Colen (Droid Mail)
ns" wrote: >and surprising: >http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/pentax-mirrorless-system-with-ultratiny-sensor-5x/ > >There are still rumors that they also plan a different system with a >bigger sensor. My theory is they hope to sell a bunch of these in >japan and do as well a

Re: Pentax Mirrorless: This is interesting

2011-02-03 Thread Paul Stenquist
More a novelty than a serious photographic tool I would think. On Feb 3, 2011, at 8:15 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: > and surprising: > http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/pentax-mirrorless-system-with-ultratiny-sensor-5x/ > > There are still rumors that they also plan a different s

Re: Pentax Mirrorless: This is interesting

2011-02-03 Thread Brian Walters
On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 20:15 -0500, "Steven Desjardins" wrote: > and surprising: > http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/pentax-mirrorless-system-with-ultratiny-sensor-5x/ > > There are still rumors that they also plan a different system with a > bigger sensor. My theory is the

Pentax Mirrorless: This is interesting

2011-02-03 Thread Steven Desjardins
and surprising: http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/pentax-mirrorless-system-with-ultratiny-sensor-5x/ There are still rumors that they also plan a different system with a bigger sensor. My theory is they hope to sell a bunch of these in japan and do as well as they can elsewhere. (What do I, know

Re: Pentax mirrorless in Spring !

2010-11-10 Thread Cotty
On 9/11/10, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: > >- Put a nice, trim eye-level viewfinder IN the camera and clean >ergonomics and shape. The Fuji X100's body and controls are a model of >simple, attractive, easy to figure out, easy to remember design. If this had a Pentax name on it, I

Re: Pentax mirrorless in Spring !

2010-11-09 Thread Adam Maas
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > >> >> My reply: >> >> Ditto, and add a 28mm pancake and a couple zooms! > > How about being able to actually capture a moving object as seen you see it > in the viewfinder? > The EVFs that I've used are just about useless on non static subjects.

Re: Pentax mirrorless in Spring !

2010-11-09 Thread eckinator
2010/11/9 Jaume Lahuerta : > > http://k-rumors.com/k4-pentax-mirrorless-camera-to-be-announced-in-february-2011/ too bad they wasted the 110 designation on that meaningless i110 job... =( ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.

Re: Pentax mirrorless in Spring !

2010-11-09 Thread Steven Desjardins
I like it. just a little sight on the top like a rifle. On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 9:06 AM, eckinator wrote: > 2010/11/9 Steven Desjardins : >> >> The GF1/E-P1 design is the best route IMHO.  Pentax already makes >> small DSLRs.  They need something that has the appeal of a range >> finder.  I'm hop

Re: Pentax mirrorless in Spring !

2010-11-09 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Dario Bonazza" Subject: Re: Pentax mirrorless in Spring ! Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: If Pentax is going to get involved with an all electronic viewfinder, interchangeable lens camera

Re: Pentax mirrorless in Spring !

2010-11-09 Thread Thibouille
Yep John, exactly and this means (being realistic) that screwdrive probably won't be supported and maybe even not aperture lever. It would be very nice but don't count on it. 2010/11/9, John Francis : > On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 07:37:53PM +0100, Dario Bonazza wrote: >> Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >> >

Re: Pentax mirrorless in Spring !

2010-11-09 Thread Miserere
On 9 November 2010 04:57, Jaume Lahuerta wrote: > http://k-rumors.com/k4-pentax-mirrorless-camera-to-be-announced-in-february-2011/ > > > Hold on, Miserere !!! > ;-) For whatever it's worth, Thom Hogan is predicting a mirrorless Pentax for 2011: http://bythom.com/2011predict

Re: Pentax mirrorless in Spring !

2010-11-09 Thread Miserere
On 9 November 2010 14:59, Steven Desjardins wrote: > Maybe just a DS with the mirror left out. I hope not! There would be little benefit there. This might be a viable option for K-x/K-r type bodies in the future (actually, it's what I think WILL happen), but it doesn't take full advantage of kil

Re: Pentax mirrorless in Spring !

2010-11-09 Thread Steven Desjardins
Maybe just a DS with the mirror left out. On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > >>- Put a nice, trim eye-level viewfinder IN the camera > > Not going to happen. I'd love it, too. But it ain't going to happen. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDM

Re: Pentax mirrorless in Spring !

2010-11-09 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >- Put a nice, trim eye-level viewfinder IN the camera Not going to happen. I'd love it, too. But it ain't going to happen. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link

Re: Pentax mirrorless in Spring !

2010-11-09 Thread Miserere
On 9 November 2010 14:03, John Francis wrote: > > Note that with DA lenses this would require a mechanical coupling > to stop down the lens - there's no aperture ring on the lens itself. > This capability would probably have to be provided by the adapter; > I'd expect any totally new lens range to

Re: Pentax mirrorless in Spring !

2010-11-09 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 07:37:53PM +0100, Dario Bonazza wrote: > Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > If Pentax is going to get involved with an all electronic viewfinder, > interchangeable lens camera, I'd love to see them: > > - Design it as a NEW line with a short lens mount register to allow > adaptabil

Re: Pentax mirrorless in Spring !

2010-11-09 Thread Dario Bonazza
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: If Pentax is going to get involved with an all electronic viewfinder, interchangeable lens camera, I'd love to see them: - Design it as a NEW line with a short lens mount register to allow adaptability to many lenses, like with Micro-FourThirds. - Deliver it with a trio

Re: Pentax mirrorless in Spring !

2010-11-09 Thread Miserere
On 9 November 2010 12:49, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > [snip] > > If Pentax is going to get involved with an all electronic viewfinder, > interchangeable lens camera, I'd love to see them: > > - Design it as a NEW line with a short lens mount register to allow > adaptability to many lenses, like wi

Re: Pentax mirrorless in Spring !

2010-11-09 Thread Charles Robinson
On Nov 9, 2010, at 11:49, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > - Put a nice, trim eye-level viewfinder IN the camera and clean > ergonomics and shape. The Fuji X100's body and controls are a model of > simple, attractive, easy to figure out, easy to remember design. > Oh god, I'd just managed to put that

Re: Pentax mirrorless in Spring !

2010-11-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 4:52 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: > The GF1/E-P1 design is the best route IMHO.  Pentax already makes > small DSLRs.  They need something that has the appeal of a range > finder.  I'm hopeful on this one. I have a GF1 on my desk right now. Since I bought the E-5, I've been

Re: Pentax mirrorless in Spring !

2010-11-09 Thread Miserere
On 9 November 2010 04:57, Jaume Lahuerta wrote: > http://k-rumors.com/k4-pentax-mirrorless-camera-to-be-announced-in-february-2011/ > > > Hold on, Miserere !!! > ;-) Ha ha ha, I have nothing to hold on to! --     \/\/o/\/\ --> http://WorldOfMiserere.com     http://Enticing

Re: Pentax mirrorless in Spring !

2010-11-09 Thread eckinator
2010/11/9 Steven Desjardins : > > The GF1/E-P1 design is the best route IMHO.  Pentax already makes > small DSLRs.  They need something that has the appeal of a range > finder.  I'm hopeful on this one. my bets are on an ANVIL design - Absolutely No Viewfinder & Interchangeable Lens and it will be

Re: Pentax mirrorless in Spring !

2010-11-09 Thread Steven Desjardins
The GF1/E-P1 design is the best route IMHO. Pentax already makes small DSLRs. They need something that has the appeal of a range finder. I'm hopeful on this one. On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 4:57 AM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote: > http://k-rumors.com/k4-pentax-mirrorless-camera-to-be-announced-in-

Pentax mirrorless in Spring !

2010-11-09 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
http://k-rumors.com/k4-pentax-mirrorless-camera-to-be-announced-in-february-2011/ Hold on, Miserere !!! ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the