Re: Pentax dropping M Shift, A 15/3.5, ...

2003-06-15 Thread Alan Chan
They have promised more lenses in the fall. This in their press release and also circulating in the rumor mill. The press release says it is lenses suited for the *istD something I think means wide angles. Some PDML member heard at PMA that there are both a 16/2.8 and a 16-35/2.8 coming. They bo

Re: Pentax dropping M Shift, A 15/3.5, ...

2003-06-15 Thread Pål Jensen
Caveman: They're not taken seriously there either. Otherwise we had heard of a third-party rush to provide digital backs for the 645 or 67. REPLY: There have been "such a rush" even if you haven't heard about it. I know people who have used a digital back for the 645N(II). The problem is that

Re: Pentax dropping M Shift, A 15/3.5, ...

2003-06-15 Thread Pål Jensen
Collin wrote: Given how technology changes and how fabrication needs would seem to require some consistency ... I wonder how many of these were made all in one batch with the expectation that they'd be sold over time. Perhaps make 500 (in whole or parts awaiting later assembly) knowing that the st

Re: Pentax dropping M Shift, A 15/3.5, ...

2003-06-15 Thread Pål Jensen
Arnold wrote: I can't believe that Pentax will leave its 35mm system like that, especially with the 1.5x factor of the digital sensors. More extreme wide-angle lenses must eventually be coming. hopefully WITH aperture ring, so that they are usable on older cameras, too, and in * or Limited

Re: Pentax dropping M Shift, A 15/3.5, ...

2003-06-14 Thread T Rittenhouse
Well, I think NPC makes digital backs, and polaroid backs for them. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: "Caveman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 4:09 PM Subject: Re: Pentax drop

Re: Pentax dropping M Shift, A 15/3.5, ...

2003-06-14 Thread Mark Roberts
"Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On 14 Jun 2003 at 9:32, Roland Mabo wrote: > >> >http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/k15f35ad.jpg >> >> Yes, but the market demand for the A 15 must have been dropped seriously >> lately. From 37 lenses a year to, perhaps, 37 lenses in 5 years... > >I wonde

Re: Pentax dropping M Shift, A 15/3.5, ...

2003-06-14 Thread Fred
> Yes, but the market demand for the A 15 must have been dropped > seriously lately. From 37 lenses a year to, perhaps, 37 lenses in > 5 years... Yes, could be. Perhaps the original "obvious answer [...] that we can't afford to stop making it if we want to keep calling ourselves a serious photogr

Re: Pentax dropping M Shift, A 15/3.5, ...

2003-06-14 Thread Fred
> I wonder what the copy-writers marketing brief would be today? "How Can We Afford to Keep Making a Lens Only 3 or 4 Photographers Will Buy This Year?" "The obvious answer is that we never really could afford to make it, but now we no longer worry about calling ourselves a serious photographic co

Re: Pentax dropping M Shift, A 15/3.5, ...

2003-06-14 Thread Nick Zentena
On June 14, 2003 08:02 am, collinb wrote: > Given how technology changes and how fabrication needs > would seem to require some consistency ... > I wonder how many of these were made all in one batch > with the expectation that they'd be sold over time. > Perhaps make 500 (in whole or parts awaitin

Re: Pentax dropping M Shift, A 15/3.5, ...

2003-06-14 Thread Pål Jensen
Frantisek wrote: I have just had this news from a Pentax dealer, that they have been told the Shift and 15/3.5 lenses are dropped, perhaps with several others of the manual focus lenses. Anyone else to confirm/deny? REPLY: No idea but it make sense. These lenses are either new old stock or

Re: Pentax dropping M Shift, A 15/3.5, ...

2003-06-14 Thread collinb
last 15 years. Seems practical. Collin At 05:09 AM 6/14/03 -0400, you wrote: From: "Roland Mabo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >From: Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Pentax dropping M Shift, A 15/3.5, ... >Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 22:08:14 -0400 >2. "How

Re: Pentax dropping M Shift, A 15/3.5, ...

2003-06-13 Thread Caveman
Fred wrote: 2. "How Can We Afford to Keep Making a Lens Only 37 Photographers Will Buy This Year?" "The obvious answer is that we can't afford to stop making it if we want to keep calling ourselves a serious photographic company." - http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/k15f35ad.jpg That was 1981. Now t

Re: Pentax dropping M Shift, A 15/3.5, ...

2003-06-13 Thread Fred
>> I have just had this news from a Pentax dealer, that they have >> been told the Shift and 15/3.5 lenses are dropped, perhaps with >> several others of the manual focus lenses. Anyone else to >> confirm/deny? 1. Actually, the 28/3.5 Shift was not an M lens, but a K lens. > I am not surprise

Re: Pentax dropping M Shift, A 15/3.5, ...

2003-06-13 Thread Paul Eriksson
Dropping the 15f3.5 and the 28/f3.5 Shift after 30 years is no bad thing (especially if one already has them:-). However, the question is, will Pentax eventually present up-to-date successors? Or will there be no Shift lens at all, and no lenses shorter than the 17-28 Fish-Eye Zoom and the new

Re: Pentax dropping M Shift, A 15/3.5, ...

2003-06-13 Thread Caveman
Arnold Stark wrote: > Or will there be no Shift lens at all, and no lenses shorter than the 17-28 Fish-Eye Zoom and the new FA-J 18-35? Very plausible. Anyone serious enough as to consider a shift lens is thinking medium format or larger and not 35mm. > I can't believe that Pentax will leave its

Re: Pentax dropping M Shift, A 15/3.5, ...

2003-06-13 Thread Arnold Stark
Dropping the 15f3.5 and the 28/f3.5 Shift after 30 years is no bad thing (especially if one already has them:-). However, the question is, will Pentax eventually present up-to-date successors? Or will there be no Shift lens at all, and no lenses shorter than the 17-28 Fish-Eye Zoom and the new

Re: Pentax dropping M Shift, A 15/3.5, ...

2003-06-13 Thread kwaller
I probably would have bought one (Shift) several years ago if it had the tilt feature. Kenneth Waller On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 06:13:18 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 13/06/03 03:18:01 GMT Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << >I have just had this news from