Re: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (was Re: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?)

2007-04-14 Thread Brendan MacRae
Thanks, Bruce. I've bookmarked the page in IE. One of the things I've found is that I'm really starting to enjoy Aperture a lot. It's much more photographer focused (pun intended). It's a blast going through my dng's very quickly and easily (now that OSX finally supports the K10D). Much, much fas

Re: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (was Re: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?)

2007-04-14 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Brendan, That is one of the reasons (price is another) that I have been using Picture Window Pro. It was designed by a photographer for photographers. The style is much more in harmony with how you think. You might want to download a trial and see what you think. http://dl-c.com/content/v

Re: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (was Re: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?)

2007-04-14 Thread Doug Franklin
Tom Simpson wrote: > [...] my digital images simply look and print better most anything > I have ever taken with film, and are a hell of a lot less labor- > intensive and bother to work with. [...] Wow, I can only agree with this. I've never done darkroom "wet" printing, but I've scanned and pri

Re: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (was Re: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?)

2007-04-14 Thread George Sinos
Brendan - I've always felt that Photoshop was not a photographer's tool. I started with Picture Window Pro and moved to Photoshop when I needed to do raw conversion. I've read the latest version of Picture Window Pro handles batches of files and does raw conversion and I'm considering moving bac

Re: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (was Re: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?)

2007-04-14 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 14/04/07, Tom Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It occurs to me that if you push film as hard as the militant pixel > peepers push these digital images, they start to show defects as well, > graininess being foremost among them. And surprise, surprise, you get > more grain when you go to high

Re: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (was Re: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?)

2007-04-14 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 14/04/07, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree. We've become paranoid about every little defect. With film, > we couldn't fix 'em, so we didn't worry. I refuse to agonize over > minutiae. The only time I have problems with fringing is in the case > you mentioned below: Backlit tre

Re: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (was Re: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?)

2007-04-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
I agree. We've become paranoid about every little defect. With film, we couldn't fix 'em, so we didn't worry. I refuse to agonize over minutiae. The only time I have problems with fringing is in the case you mentioned below: Backlit tree branches in winter. Ditto for backlit birds against t

Re: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (was Re: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?)

2007-04-14 Thread Tom Simpson
It occurs to me that if you push film as hard as the militant pixel peepers push these digital images, they start to show defects as well, graininess being foremost among them. And surprise, surprise, you get more grain when you go to higher ISO film. Seems like there is a lot of apples=oranges

Re: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (was Re: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?)

2007-04-14 Thread Cotty
On 13/4/07, Mark Erickson, discombobulated, unleashed: >Brendan's post and the response bring up an interesting issue that seems to >increasingly dominate the digital photography world--pixel peeping and >hunting for defects. It is easy to zoom up to 200% and tear apart an image, >but how much of

Re: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (was Re: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?)

2007-04-13 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 14/04/07, Bong Manayon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree with you. A picture of nothing in complete darkness with the > highest ISO may either mean you're an astronomer or you have a badly > exposed photo...in which case, the VPN is the least of your problems. I know that you didn't intend

Re: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (was Re: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?)

2007-04-13 Thread Bong Manayon
On 4/14/07, Mark Erickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My ultimate conclusion is, "So what?" It's like the > old joke where the patient says, "Doctor, it hurts when I do ," and the > doctor responds, "So don't do ". > > I know that blooming and CA can be pretty obvious in certain situation

Re: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (was Re: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?)

2007-04-13 Thread Brendan MacRae
Good point, Mark. In fact, I could really care less about it except that I've had some rejections because of it. Now, are the inspectors looking past 100%? I have no idea, but probably so. For my own peace of mind, I'm trying to get to the bottom of something that will, in the end, make me a more

Pixel peeping and looking for defects (was Re: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?)

2007-04-13 Thread Mark Erickson
Brendan's post and the response bring up an interesting issue that seems to increasingly dominate the digital photography world--pixel peeping and hunting for defects. It is easy to zoom up to 200% and tear apart an image, but how much of the defects we observe will actually show up in real world