Re: OT: The invisible Mother

2012-05-07 Thread John Sessoms
I remember going to Olan Mills for family portraits when I was young. They did different groupings - whole family, parents together, kids together, everyone by themselves ... I think this might be an early evolution of that practice. From: Bob Sullivan Bill, Seems to me the lame part is not

Re: OT: The invisible Mother

2012-05-07 Thread William Robb
On 06/05/2012 8:50 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Dan, If the mother is under a blanket holding the kid, or out in the open holding the kid - What's the difference??? One is a picture of the child, the other is a picture of the mother and child. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PD

Re: OT: The invisible Mother

2012-05-06 Thread Boris Liberman
On 5/7/2012 01:42, Bob Sullivan wrote: Bill, Seems to me the lame part is not simply including the mother. Our family photos include mom with the kids. Regards, Bob S. Indeed. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the

Re: OT: The invisible Mother

2012-05-06 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
photos. Cheers, frank "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: "Daniel J. Matyola" Sent: May 6, 2012 5/6/12 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: Re: OT: The invisible Mother

Re: OT: The invisible Mother

2012-05-06 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I think that the idea was that it would look strange, or look like the kid was uncontrollable, if you could see that the mother had to hold the child in a vise-like grip. They wanted the child to look like a little angel, whether he or she was or not. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com

Re: OT: The invisible Mother

2012-05-06 Thread Darren Addy
I knew that in the old days "Children should be seen and not heard" but I had no idea that "Mothers should be heard and not seen". -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and f

Re: OT: The invisible Mother

2012-05-06 Thread Bob Sullivan
Dan, If the mother is under a blanket holding the kid, or out in the open holding the kid - What's the difference??? Regards, Bob S. On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > That would not keep the kid from moving or squirming.  The exposures > were long, and most children were

Re: OT: The invisible Mother

2012-05-06 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That would not keep the kid from moving or squirming. The exposures were long, and most children were not comfortable with strangers. So, if the mother was in the image, she would have to been restraining the child, which would not make a very pleasing portrait. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphoto

Re: OT: The invisible Mother

2012-05-06 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bill, Seems to me the lame part is not simply including the mother. Our family photos include mom with the kids. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 3:44 PM, William Robb wrote: > On 06/05/2012 2:12 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: >> >> I guess, but kind of a lame idea... > > > When exposure were mea

Re: OT: The invisible Mother

2012-05-06 Thread Mark Roberts
William Robb wrote: >On 06/05/2012 2:12 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: >> I guess, but kind of a lame idea... > >When exposure were measured in tens of minutes, photographers had to do >whatever they could to ensure kids kept still. For adults there were all >sorts of contraptions (head clamps and the

Re: OT: The invisible Mother

2012-05-06 Thread William Robb
On 06/05/2012 2:12 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: I guess, but kind of a lame idea... When exposure were measured in tens of minutes, photographers had to do whatever they could to ensure kids kept still. For adults there were all sorts of contraptions (head clamps and the like) to keep subjects fro

Re: OT: The invisible Mother

2012-05-06 Thread Bob Sullivan
I guess, but kind of a lame idea... On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > A fascinating technique in portrait photography: > > http://www.retronaut.co/2011/10/the-invisible-mother/ > > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss

RE: OT: The invisible Mother

2012-05-06 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Very interesting! I had never heard of that before. Thanks for posting that link. Cheers, frank "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: "Daniel J. Matyola" Sent: May 6, 2012 5/6/12 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail Li