In a message dated 8/3/2006 9:51:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
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Terrorists without bombs.
William Robb
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You complain people are complaisant and don't protest about infringement on
freedoms. And yet you call activists, who do protest, terrorists without bombs?
B
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> From: "Aaron Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2006/08/04 Fri AM 12:46:00 GMT
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> You say tomato, and I say dentist.
>
> -Aaron
Mark! Wisest words so far t
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> And let's insert activists somewhere between the press and terrorists.
Terrorists without bombs.
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In a message dated 8/3/2006 2:47:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
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Freedom should be absolute up to the point that it begins to infringe
on someone else's freedom.
Bob
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Bravo.
And let's insert activists somewhere between the press and terrorists.
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From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Thu Aug 3, 2006 8:58 pm
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Huh? :-) I don&#x
Huh? :-) I don't get it.
Tom C.
"I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or
numbered."
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You say tomato, and I say dentist.
-Aaron
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From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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It also depends who wins. The 'fathers of this cou
quot;I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or
numbered."
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From: "P. J. Alling"
Subject: Re: Photography = obstruction of justice?
>I always thought a "Freedom Fighter" fought for freedom, many given
>that
> label seem to fight against it.
It seems to depend on whether we agree with them or
Hear, hear!! (thanks for earlier spelling correction).
Jack
--- Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Aug 3, 2006, at 4:59 PM, DagT wrote:
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> > Sure, but I value the freedom to speak my mind and seek my wisdom
> > without being scared of what may be stored in my cache .-)
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>
> Freedo
On Aug 3, 2006, at 4:59 PM, DagT wrote:
> Sure, but I value the freedom to speak my mind and seek my wisdom
> without being scared of what may be stored in my cache .-)
Freedom should be absolute up to the point that it begins to infringe
on someone else's freedom.
Bob
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Tom C.
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> "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or
> numbered."
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>> From: DagT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or
> numbered."
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> Patrick McGoohan in "The Prisoner"
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>> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Depends whose freedom you're talking about.
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> I always thought a "Freedom Fighter" fought for freedom, many
> given that
> label seem to fight against it.
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> Norman Baugher wrote:
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> >Let's throw in Freedom Fighter somewhere as well...
> >Norm
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> >From: "P. J. Alling"
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>I always thought a "Freedom Fighter" fought for freedom, many given that
>label seem to fight against it.
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>Norman Baugher wrote:
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I always thought a "Freedom Fighter" fought for freedom, many given that
label seem to fight against it.
Norman Baugher wrote:
>Let's throw in Freedom Fighter somewhere as well...
>Norm
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>From: "P. J. Alling"
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>>No, like all good libertarians we call those who overreach their
>>authori
Let's throw in Freedom Fighter somewhere as well...
Norm
From: "P. J. Alling"
> No, like all good libertarians we call those who overreach their
> authority stateists. Those who finally rebel are called rebels.
> Terrorists are a different kettle of fish entirely.
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> William Robb wrote:
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> From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2006/08/03 Thu AM 06:58:19 GMT
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> > >>"I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, b
> >>"I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed,
> >>debriefed or numbered."
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> >>Patrick McGoohan in "The Prisoner"
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> > I don't mind being debriefed from time to time.
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> > Bob
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> With your taste in shorts, I'm suprised it doesn't happen more
often
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>>Who says we tolerate it. When the cops do something like this you
>>contact a lawyer and the local press. Freedom needs to be defended
>>everywhere, but it needs to be defended. If it isn't, eventually you
&g
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From: "P. J. Alling"
Subject: Re: Photography = obstruction of justice?
> Who says we tolerate it. When the cops do something like this you
> contact a lawyer and the local press. Freedom needs to be defended
> everywhere, but it needs to
Bob W wrote:
>>"I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed,
>>debriefed or numbered."
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>>Patrick McGoohan in "The Prisoner"
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> I don't mind being debriefed from time to time.
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> Bob
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With your taste in shorts, I'm suprised it doesn't happen more often.
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> "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed,
> debriefed or numbered."
>
> Patrick McGoohan in "The Prisoner"
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I don't mind being debriefed from time to time.
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P.J. Alling wrote:
>I used more tact back then, than I seem to have lately.
The older we get the dumber we get. :-)
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As a former, (very former), member of the working press, I knew my
rights. Which didn't differer from those of the public at large. I was
never arrested or roughed up, but I did have a few scary moments. I
used more tact back then, than I seem to have lately.
graywolf wrote:
>You live in a
From: "P. J. Alling"
>Subject: Re: Photography = obstruction of justice?
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>
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>>It really doesn't matter if they think there's a law or not. The
>>police
>>couldn't shut down an official press photographer that way, and the
>>same
William Robb wrote:
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>They know they aren't enforcing laws. They know they are bullying and
>intimidating citizens.
>I find it amusing that you are squandering so much resources trying to
>stop this from happenning in other people's countries, and tolerating it
>in your own.
Don't you know that'
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From: "Scott Loveless"
Subject: Re: Photography = obstruction of justice?
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> Yer next, buddy. http://www.planetfriendly.net/police.html After
> you, it's the UK.
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_a
You live in a different world than I do. The police have often hassled
the press. However, the media usually has more money to proceed with
legal remedies, and of course plenty of access to influencing public
opinion.
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On 8/2/06, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> They know they aren't enforcing laws. They know they are bullying and
> intimidating citizens.
> I find it amusing that you are squandering so much resources trying to
> stop this from happenning in other people's countries, and tolerating it
> i
- Original Message -
From: "P. J. Alling"
Subject: Re: Photography = obstruction of justice?
> It really doesn't matter if they think there's a law or not. The
> police
> couldn't shut down an official press photographer that way, and the
> same
It really doesn't matter if they think there's a law or not. The police
couldn't shut down an official press photographer that way, and the
same rule applies to a casual photographer as well.
Jack Davis wrote:
>Would be interesting to learn if there were such a "law" in effect at
>the time. W
I thought "Better police for a better police state!" was Rhode Islands
unofficial motto.
Scott Loveless wrote:
>http://www.nbc10.com/news/9574663/detail.html
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>Philly this time.
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This is so stupid and so ironic.
Philly (where I live) is on its way to breaking its
record for the number of murders in a year, which was
set (IIRC) in 1993.
The police say the main problem is the large number of
intimidated people who won't cooperate with
investigations--"don't snitch" is the r
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From: "Bob Shell"
Subject: Re: Photography = obstruction of justice?
>
> This should read "It's a pity the cops won't just do their jobs
> without abusing innocent people." They certainly can do it if they
> wa
On Jul 30, 2006, at 12:27 PM, William Robb wrote:
> The problem with this is that people will either become afraid of
> "stepping
> out of line" with the police, making it easier for them to abuse their
> privilege, or else people will start baiting the police in an
> attempt to get
> monetar
On 30/7/06, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed:
>http://www.nbc10.com/news/9574663/detail.html
>
>Philly this time.
Thanks for the laugh :-)
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Would be interesting to learn if there were such a "law" in effect at
the time. Were the Police following their Department's self-imposed
'rule'? Reacting to their understanding of a City 'ordinance'? or...?
The court will likely sort it out.
Jack
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From: "Joseph Tainter"
Subject: Re: Photography = obstruction of justice?
> http://www.nbc10.com/news/9574663/detail.html
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> Philly this time.
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> This is clearly an attempt by the police at intimidation. I am sure this
&g
http://www.nbc10.com/news/9574663/detail.html
Philly this time.
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This is clearly an attempt by the police at intimidation. I am sure this
fellow will wind up with a nice monetary award.
Joe
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