From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/latestnews/Man-fined-for-taking-photo.4558618.jp
Just goes to show that official (and officious) stupidity is not
confined to the U.S.
I don't suppose the police also arrested the woman and her friends for
public drun
It seems that chivalry is not dead in the Scottish court system, even if
common sense and respect for photographers rights are...
John Sessoms wrote:
From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/latestnews/Man-fined-for-taking-photo.4558618.jp
Just goes to show
he got what he deserved, IMHO
ann
William Robb wrote:
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The postman was being "exceptionally unchivalrous." Is that an
offense in the UK? Most of us here in the NY-NJ area are pretty darn
"unchivalrous."
On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 11:46 AM, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/latestnews/Man-fined-for-taking-photo.455
What he deserved and what is legal are two different things. What ever
happened to the doctrine that if you're doing something stupid in public
you have no expectation of privacy.
ann sanfedele wrote:
he got what he deserved, IMHO
ann
William Robb wrote:
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/la
- Original Message -
From: "ann sanfedele"
Subject: Re: The beginning of the end for street photography?
he got what he deserved, IMHO
Would you feel the same way if it was a mid 20s male comiing out of a pub
after watching a soccer match who was being the spectacle?
As i always say, don't use flash in drunken street photos. This is
were the K20D and D700 come in handy.
Dave
On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 1:01 PM, John Sessoms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>>
>> http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/latestnews/Man-fined-for-taking-
On 4/10/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
>http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/latestnews/Man-fined-for-taking-photo.
>4558618.jp
He was charged with, and found guilty of, a Breach of the Peace. Nothing
whatsoever to do with photographing a vomiting woman, except that the
initial act prob
Actually the newspaper account seemed to indicate that her friends
assaulted the photographer and indulged in false imprisonment. I'd
expect the police to arrest them not the other way around.
Cotty wrote:
On 4/10/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
http://thescotsman.scotsman.
blast them to
the world on the web.
just my 2 cents
ann
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: "ann sanfedele"
Subject: Re: The beginning of the end for street photography?
he got what he deserved, IMHO
Would you feel the same way if it was a mid 20s male comiin
From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Actually the newspaper account seemed to indicate that her friends
assaulted the photographer and indulged in false imprisonment. I'd
expect the police to arrest them not the other way around.
Yeah, that was my take on it too. I could see if they polic
- Original Message -
From: "ann sanfedele"
Subject: Re: The beginning of the end for street photography?
Bill -
Why would that make a difference?
I find myself unable to stomach most photography that belittles and
humiliates people
who may or may not be doing it to
I used the D700's high ISO last night/this morning for just that purpose :-)
Cheers,
Dave
2008/10/5 David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> As i always say, don't use flash in drunken street photos. This is
> were the K20D and D700 come in handy.
>
> Dave
>
> On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 1:01 PM, John S
On 4/10/08, ann sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed:
>I think there has been lots more mischief created by the ease with which
>one can use a cell
>phone to clandestinely photo strangers on the street and blast them to
>the world on the web.
Ann raises a very topical point here - one that stil
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 5:15 AM, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 4/10/08, ann sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>I think there has been lots more mischief created by the ease with which
>>one can use a cell
>>phone to clandestinely photo strangers on the street and blast them to
>>the
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: "ann sanfedele"
Subject: Re: The beginning of the end for street photography?
Bill -
Why would that make a difference?
I find myself unable to stomach most photography that belittles and
humiliates people
who may or may not b
I ask the lists's indulgence for my not snipping some of Cotty's small
essay below -- I want to
keep it in for reference -
I had made a distinction (not quoted by Cotty ) between the situation
described and someone
snapping "outright criminal behaviour (someone catching someone mugging
someon
Putting on my philosophers hat, in answer to your question, yes the
professionals and the amateurs have the same rights to record the
scene. So to take that to the practical, under any rational
understanding, of those rights the police have no legitimate power
granted to them to keep the byst
Unfortunately, this is the UK, not the US or Canada with their
explicit Freedom of the Press protections that also cover amateurs. As
Cotty indicates, Journalists are actually licensed in the UK, meaning
that 'Legitimate' is a valid description.
-Adam
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 10:05 AM, P. J. Alling
Well, I'm speaking philosophically here, the US constitution doesn't
grant rights, it protects existing rights. The original theory came
from England. You'd think they'd still operate under the same
principals. I find it slightly amazing that anyone would allow their
government to operate on
John Sessoms wrote:
At the very least, she was, as Arlo Guthrie says, "littering ... and
creating a public nuisance."
Here on the Group W bench.
;-)
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From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Putting on my philosophers hat, in answer to your question, yes the
professionals and the amateurs have the same rights to record the
scene. So to take that to the practical, under any rational
understanding, of those rights the police have no legitima
On 10/5/08, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 4/10/08, ann sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>
> >I think there has been lots more mischief created by the ease with which
> >one can use a cell
> >phone to clandestinely photo strangers on the street and blast them to
> >the world on
On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 11:46 AM, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/latestnews/Man-fined-for-taking-photo.4558618.jp
I don't think it's exactly a legal precedent.
Like most legal matters in the papers, it's very poorly reported.
They don't say, but it appear
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Scary. UK moving towards fascism?
> Sounds like fascism has already arrived...
I don't think it's a real good idea to start pointing fingers at other
countries when it comes to the state abrogating individual rights.
How many
On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 17:10:30 -0400
"frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is a widespread problem. It has less to do with the actual laws
> of a particular country than it does with over-zealous law enforcement
> officers everywhere who know that they can intimidate civilians.
we hav
Like most legal matters in the papers, it's very poorly reported.
Just legal matters
Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
- Original Message -
From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The beginning of the end for street photogra
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Subash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> we have this flickr group that does a photowalk once a month in the
> city, to places of historical/architectural interest. or just places
> with lots of colour like bazaars/markets etc...and our biggest problem
> is the polic
e - From: "frank theriault"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The beginning of the end for street photography?
On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 11:46 AM, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/latestnews/Man-fined-for-taking-photo.4558618.jp
I don
From: Mme RD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
that guy was from Poland where drunk people are so numerous you find
them on youtube more often than not . I don't think he realized but ,
honestly would _you_ go and shoot anybody being sick with your mobile
phone and a flash and right under her nose ?? it'
>
> I think many are still missing an important point.
>
> While the photographer was punished for his "disorderly"
> behavior taking
> the photograph ...
>
> ... yet there is no indication of ANY sanction applied to the
> woman and
> her rowdy friends for public intoxication.
>
> Being so
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