Re: The problem with modern camera design

2012-01-01 Thread Larry Colen, l...@red4est.com (From Droid)
If you are using a lens like the 16-50 you can rotate and zoom at the same time, and fix the axis or rotation about the lens. John Celio n...@neovenator.com wrote: Earlier tonight I was having some fun photographing holiday lights when I realized something: now that pretty much all cameras

Re: The problem with modern camera design

2012-01-01 Thread Larry Colen
On Jan 1, 2012, at 1:07 AM, John Celio wrote: Earlier tonight I was having some fun photographing holiday lights when I realized something: now that pretty much all cameras have a much smaller left shoulder than film cameras of old, the lens is no longer in the center of the body. This

RE: The problem with modern camera design

2012-01-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
The lens wasn't dead centre on Spotmatics either. Certainly not off-centre as much as a modern dslr, but off-centre none-the-less. Same goes with older rangefinders, including Leica Ms. What I don't get is, wouldn't you reframe as a matter of course when you rotate your camera? I cannot

Re: The problem with modern camera design

2012-01-01 Thread Jack Davis
In the case of an SLR, the orientation is related only to  the viewfinder which acts as a hub. The lens, in this case, remains in the same orientation. Jack - Original Message - From: John Celio n...@neovenator.com To: pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2012 1:07 AM Subject:

Re: The problem with modern camera design

2012-01-01 Thread William Robb
On 01/01/2012 3:07 AM, John Celio wrote: Earlier tonight I was having some fun photographing holiday lights when I realized something: now that pretty much all cameras have a much smaller left shoulder than film cameras of old, the lens is no longer in the center of the body. This means that if

Re: The problem with modern camera design

2012-01-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Surely an early contender for a MARK!! :-) cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com If that's all it takes to make you give up and go home, you should probably take up a different hobby than photography. There are annoyances out there that will

Re: The problem with modern camera design (plus cat photos)

2012-01-01 Thread John Celio
Larry, that's pretty much what I was doing, though I think you got some that are much better than mine. Frank: I'm talking about the move-the-camera-during-long-exposures like Larry showed in his reply, though I've always liked trying to get a nice, centered spiral of lights. Take a look at

Re: The problem with modern camera design (plus cat photos)

2012-01-01 Thread John Sessoms
From: John Celio Larry, that's pretty much what I was doing, though I think you got some that are much better than mine. Frank: I'm talking about the move-the-camera-during-long-exposures like Larry showed in his reply, though I've always liked trying to get a nice, centered spiral of lights.

Re: The problem with modern camera design

2012-01-01 Thread Cotty
On 1/1/12, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: If that's all it takes to make you give up and go home, you should probably take up a different hobby than photography. There are annoyances out there that will have you slitting your wrists. That last bit is photographing the cats. --

Re: The problem with modern camera design (plus cat photos)

2012-01-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: The problem with modern camera design (plus cat photos) Larry, that's pretty much what I was doing, though I think you got some that are much better than mine. Frank: I'm talking about the move-the-camera-during-long-exposures like Larry showed in his reply, though

Re: The problem with modern camera design

2012-01-01 Thread Rick Womer
Larry, those are great.  I especially like nos. 88 and 94. Rick   http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2012 8:04 AM Subject: Re: The problem with modern camera

Re: The problem with modern camera design

2012-01-01 Thread Christine Aguila
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2012 8:04 AM Subject: Re: The problem with modern camera design On Jan 1, 2012, at 1:07 AM, John Celio wrote: Earlier tonight I was having some fun photographing holiday lights when I realized something: now that pretty

Re: The problem with modern camera design

2012-01-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2012 8:04 AM Subject: Re: The problem with modern camera design On Jan 1, 2012, at 1:07 AM, John Celio wrote: Earlier tonight I was having some fun photographing holiday lights when I realized something: now that pretty much all cameras have a much

Re: The problem with modern camera design

2012-01-01 Thread John Celio
If that's all it takes to make you give up and go home, you should probably take up a different hobby than photography. There are annoyances out there that will have you slitting your wrists. I didn't give up and go home because of that. It was friggin' cold and I was feeling crappy because my

Re: The problem with modern camera design

2012-01-01 Thread Larry Colen
On Jan 1, 2012, at 7:01 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Larry, those are great. I especially like nos. 88 and 94. Thanks a bunch. I was visiting friends tonight, they had holiday lights up, the set is now a bit bigger. The thing that I find these photos good for is computer or smartphone wall