Re: What Were You Trying to Say?

2006-07-03 Thread Lon Williamson
Yeah, and if one shoots that way, one can count on a few comments like "I would have reframed to avoid the _distracting_highlights_ in the upper left.." etc. etc. Ya like it or ya don't, I'm beginning to feel. >frank theriault wrote: > > >>Boris' recent PESO (or was it a PAW?) featured at leas

Re: What Were You Trying to Say?

2006-06-30 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault wrote: >Well, of course I'm saying something with a photograph. Sometimes I >communicate better or more effectively that way than in other ways - >that's the whole point, right? > >What irks me, is someone asking me what I'm trying to say. > >It's in the photograph. That's what t

Re: What Were You Trying to Say?

2006-06-30 Thread Kenneth Waller
Comments interspersed below. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: What Were You Trying to Say? > Well, of course I'm saying something with a photograph. Sometimes I > communicate better or more effecti

Re: What Were You Trying to Say?

2006-06-30 Thread DagT
>> >> Very well put. >> >> Kenneth Waller >> >> ========= >> Ditto. Agree with the above and the below. >> >> Marnie aka Doe >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "DagT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject

Re: What Were You Trying to Say?

2006-06-30 Thread frank theriault
ote: > In a message dated 6/28/2006 9:24:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Bingo! > > Very well put. > > Kenneth Waller > > = > Ditto. Agree with the above and the below. > > Marnie aka Doe > > > ----- Original Message

Re: What Were You Trying to Say?

2006-06-29 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 6/28/2006 9:24:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bingo! Very well put. Kenneth Waller = Ditto. Agree with the above and the below. Marnie aka Doe - Original Message - From: "DagT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: What

Re: What Were You Trying to Say?

2006-06-28 Thread graywolf
I once belonged to an artist group. One person of each media was invited to belong. I was the token photographer. The were always going on about this "meaning" stuff. Pseudo-psychological-babel was all it was to me. I did not remain a member long, only a few months, although I was flattered tha

Re: What Were You Trying to Say?

2006-06-28 Thread graywolf
You are usually trying to say, "I like this, at least at the moment I take it". At least that is what I am saying. That or, "I hope the client will like this". I think that mostly the only people who have a more precise agenda when they snap a shot are propagandists. -- graywolf http://www.gra

Re: What Were You Trying to Say?

2006-06-28 Thread Kenneth Waller
Bingo! Very well put. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "DagT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: What Were You Trying to Say? > Of course you are saying something. You show your personal selection > of the world that passes by. You may not be able to

RE: What Were You Trying to Say?

2006-06-28 Thread Jens Bladt
The beauty fo communicating throug images (photographs or art) is IMO that - IF the recipient is "on the same wavelengt" as the author or publihser - he or she will understand the message, the question, the statemnet, the joke etc. - if there is one. If there isn't, you are of course free to make

Re: What Were You Trying to Say?

2006-06-28 Thread Toralf Lund
frank theriault wrote: > Boris' recent PESO (or was it a PAW?) featured at least two questions > along the lines of the above subject line. > > Which got me to thinking: What difference does it make? I very often > take photos which, ~at the time I take them~, I have no idea "what I'm > trying to

Re: What Were You Trying to Say?

2006-06-27 Thread DagT
Of course you are saying something. You show your personal selection of the world that passes by. You may not be able to put it into words, but the message is there. This is what I choose to show you, this is what I think is worth showing. DagT Den 27. jun. 2006 kl. 18.55 skrev frank the

Re: What Were You Trying to Say?

2006-06-27 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! > Boris' recent PESO (or was it a PAW?) featured at least two questions > along the lines of the above subject line. Frank, I am humbled by mere fact that my PESO inspired (at least it looks like this) this thread. I find it extremely interesting thread. > Which got me to thinking: What di

Re: What Were You Trying to Say?

2006-06-27 Thread David J Brooks
Quoting Tom Reese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Not all pictures have messages. Some just appeal to our emotions. > Some are documentary and contain information only but don't make a > statement. > > That's my .02 worth. > > Tom Reese I agree 100% Tom. I don't thing i have ever gone out on a photo

Re: What Were You Trying to Say?

2006-06-27 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Bob W wrote: > > t it to be saying something. > >. This is why it is so often a mistake to include text in a > photograph - it will distract the viewer from the picture itself > because the viewer is trying to find a meaning. > > -- > Cheers, > Bob > Too late :) annsan -- PDML Pentax-D

Re: What Were You Trying to Say?

2006-06-27 Thread Pancho Hasselbach
Frank, you are a lucky man, as not everything you do/think/say is burdened with stuff like "sense" or "purpose". Not so long ago, I had a talk with a friend who paints and draws, who said that it's good, and maybe necessary, to do things that certainly do not follow a purpose on first hand. If

Re: What Were You Trying to Say?

2006-06-27 Thread frank theriault
On 6/27/06, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The pretentious statement categories, of course! > > Pretentious statements seem to be applied, not necessarily by the > photographer, most often to 'street' photographs and to 'art' > photographs. Examples abound. I have to admit, my question was rat

RE: What Were You Trying to Say?

2006-06-27 Thread Bob W
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff > Sent: 27 June 2006 20:07 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: RE: What Were You Trying to Say? > > What categories might those be? > > Shel > > > > > [Original Message] > >

RE: What Were You Trying to Say?

2006-06-27 Thread Shel Belinkoff
What categories might those be? Shel > [Original Message] > From: Bob W > Some photographers who take certain categories of picture claim, often > pretentiously, to be making a statement with them. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.

Re: What Were You Trying to Say?

2006-06-27 Thread Kenneth Waller
MAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: What Were You Trying to Say? > Some photographers who take certain categories of picture claim, often > pretentiously, to be making a statement with them. > > Consequently when people see a picture that they think may belong in > one of those ca

Re: What Were You Trying to Say?

2006-06-27 Thread Gonz
I agree Frank. Let a picture stand on its own beauty. There few things less pompous than someone trying to find some abstract hidden message or a universal truth in every image. The same thing happens in literary work. I think it was JD Salinger, of "Catcher in the Rye" fame, that was perpl

RE: What Were You Trying to Say?

2006-06-27 Thread Bob W
Some photographers who take certain categories of picture claim, often pretentiously, to be making a statement with them. Consequently when people see a picture that they think may belong in one of those categories they often expect it to be saying something. More prosaically, when a picture mak

Re: What Were You Trying to Say?

2006-06-27 Thread Kenneth Waller
A great question knarF. My responses (YMMV) interspersed below. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: What Were You Trying to Say? > Boris' recent PESO (or was it a PAW?) featured at least two questions > along the lines of the above s

Re: What Were You Trying to Say?

2006-06-27 Thread Ann Sanfedele
frank theriault wrote: > > Boris' recent PESO (or was it a PAW?) featured at least two questions > along the lines of the above subject line. > > Which got me to thinking: What difference does it make? I very often > take photos which, ~at the time I take them~, I have no idea "what I'm > tryin

Re: What Were You Trying to Say?

2006-06-27 Thread Tom Reese
From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Boris' recent PESO (or was it a PAW?) featured at least two questions > along the lines of the above subject line. > > Which got me to thinking: What difference does it make? I very often > take photos which, ~at the time I take them~, I have no idea