RE: Zooms vs. primes (WAS: Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6

2003-07-15 Thread Amita Guha
Very true. I recently used my 28-70mm to shoot fireworks, and because of the flexibility, my shots came out a lot better than they would have if I'd been stuck trying to swap primes, with limited time, in the dark. > -Original Message- > From: Lon Williamson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > I

Re: Zooms vs. primes (WAS: Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ (now abit long))

2003-07-14 Thread Mark Roberts
Lon Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Mark, I have the Pentax auto tube set, two third party auto tube >sets, and the original Pentax "non auto" set. The last is the one >I like the best for macro shots. No fiddling with a dof button. >It also contains, AFAIK, the shortest tube Pentax made

Re: Zooms vs. primes (WAS: Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ (nowabit long))

2003-07-13 Thread Alan Chan
They all do that, Alan, especially when focused close. They are excellent in the 80-135mm range, increasingly mediocre after that unless focused at infinity and stopped down more than one stop. Actually I shot them at near infinity. But one stop down, the improvement was dramatic. It made me wonde

Re: Zooms vs. primes (WAS: Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6

2003-07-13 Thread Keith Whaley
Just a few thoughts on zoom photography in general... I have just recently "discovered" the ease a small zoom gives me when I'm on vacation, and the help in framing it provides. As I get older, while I still love walking among the rocks and along the seashore, camera at the ready, I am not as much

Re: Zooms vs. primes (WAS: Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ (now abit long))

2003-07-13 Thread Mark Roberts
"whickersworld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Alan Chan wrote: > >> My friend's Nikkor AF 80-200/2.8D sucked when shooting at >> 200/2.8. Everything was diffused. Didn't know what's wrong. >They all do that, Alan, especially when focused close. The FA*80-200/2.8 performs wonderfully wide open, even

Re: Zooms vs. primes (WAS: Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ (nowabit long))

2003-07-12 Thread Alan Chan
That's very true indeed, but we started out discussing sharpness only. In fact, I found a lot of zooms which perform well stopped down at infinity. Many of these are weak at close range and/or wide open, though. If a manufacturer wants to look good on a lens test report, they just optimize for

Re: Zooms vs. primes (WAS: Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ (now a bit long))

2003-07-12 Thread Pål Jensen
Mark wrote: Bit of a "straw man" argument there, since the A 3.5 f2.8 has been singled out by several users (you in particular) as a dog. REPLY: Not really. I was trying to illustrate my opinion that todays good zoom are equally good or better than yesterdays primes. The A 35/2.8 is fairly typ

Re: Zooms vs. primes (WAS: Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ (now a bit long))

2003-07-12 Thread Pål Jensen
Frank wrote: Even if we take Pal's original statement as true ("today's best zooms are every bit as good as primes"), a zoom is going to exact some penalty on it's user. REPLY: I didn't actually say that. That was something I quoted. Pål

Re: Zooms vs. primes (WAS: Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ(now abit long))

2003-07-12 Thread Bo-Ming Tong
frank theriault wrote: Well, there has to be some trade-off, doesn't there? Even if we take Pal's original statement as true ("today's best zooms are every bit as good as primes"), a zoom is going to exact some penalty on it's user. They're bigger, heavier, slower, more complicated, take more time

Re: Zooms vs. primes (WAS: Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ (now abit long))

2003-07-12 Thread Herb Chong
le here who have the same lens. Herb - Original Message - From: "Steve Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 10:00 Subject: Re: Zooms vs. primes (WAS: Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ (now abit long)) >

Re: Zooms vs. primes (WAS: Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ (now abit long))

2003-07-12 Thread Steve Larson
ent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 6:31 AM Subject: Re: Zooms vs. primes (WAS: Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ (now abit long)) > right on all counts, but my sharpest lens is my FA 50mm macro but only very slightly behind it is my FA* 80-200. my FA* 24 and my FA 24-90 are n

Re: Zooms vs. primes (WAS: Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ (now abit long))

2003-07-12 Thread Herb Chong
ent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 06:30 Subject: Re: Zooms vs. primes (WAS: Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ (now abit long)) > Well, there has to be some trade-off, doesn't there? > > Even if we take Pal's original statement as true ("today's best zooms

Re: Zooms vs. primes (WAS: Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ (now abit long))

2003-07-12 Thread frank theriault
Well, there has to be some trade-off, doesn't there? Even if we take Pal's original statement as true ("today's best zooms are every bit as good as primes"), a zoom is going to exact some penalty on it's user. They're bigger, heavier, slower, more complicated, take more time to use (since you hav

Re: Zooms vs. primes (WAS: Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ (now abit long))

2003-07-12 Thread Alan Chan
It is being said that todays best zooms are every bit as good as primes. You can find it even in several photo books like the ones by John Shaw (who in earlier books only recommended primes), Charles Campbell etc. I would modified it to todays best zooms are better than yesterdays primes and th

Re: Zooms vs. primes (WAS: Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ (now abit long))

2003-07-12 Thread Alan Chan
There are still "Hi-Fi" magazines around? Well I'll be darned! If you insist! :-) regards, Alan Chan _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail