Re: Rare 35mm lenses (was Re: Melbourne lens shopping + Beethoven's Ninth.)

2002-04-21 Thread Pentxuser
In a message dated 4/20/02 11:36:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: <<"Mishka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: i feel like i am completely missing something here. are these lenses "collectibles" (i wasn't aware pentax glass has this status) or simply so much better than competition (i mean, cannon 85/1.

RE: Rare 35mm lenses (was Re: Melbourne lens shopping + Beethoven's Ninth.)

2002-04-20 Thread Jose R. Rodriguez
OTECTED] Subject: Re: Rare 35mm lenses (was Re: Melbourne lens shopping + Beethoven's Ninth.) I guess, what I want to know is, those are that expensive simply because they have collectible status, or because they blow away all the competition? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail Lis

Re: Rare 35mm lenses (was Re: Melbourne lens shopping + Beethoven's Ninth.)

2002-04-20 Thread Fred
> got 3 new lenses this > month, and i have a feeling they are dying > to refract some light... Sounds like a good month, Mishka !!! Time to take the new glass out for some refractive therapy (good for them and good for you - ). Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsu

Re: Rare 35mm lenses (was Re: Melbourne lens shopping + Beethoven's Ninth.)

2002-04-20 Thread Mishka
;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 12:49 PM Subject: Re: Rare 35mm lenses (was Re: Melbourne lens shopping + Beethoven's Ninth.) > Hey--Who is this guy who's trying to inject a dose of commonsense into our > support group? > > "Mishka" <[EMAIL PROT

Re: Rare 35mm lenses (was Re: Melbourne lens shopping + Beethoven's Ninth.)

2002-04-20 Thread Paul F. Stregevsky
A US website listed a K28/2, same condition, same price, once in 1999, again in 2000. Each time, I discovered it a few day after the lens was sold. I also missed one in Finland. I finally found one on a Kansas site for about $260. It's still the costliest lens I own below 200mm. I just discov

Re: Rare 35mm lenses (was Re: Melbourne lens shopping + Beethoven's Ninth.)

2002-04-20 Thread Paul F. Stregevsky
Hey--Who is this guy who's trying to inject a dose of commonsense into our support group? "Mishka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: i feel like i am completely missing something here. are these lenses "collectibles" (i wasn't aware pentax glass has this status) or simply so much better than competit

Re: Rare 35mm lenses (was Re: Melbourne lens shopping + Beethoven's Ninth.)

2002-04-20 Thread Frantisek Vlcek
I never could understand why people pay so much for these, except the consumerism and lust factor. I mean, the 1.8/85 is great lens (the very similar or same Zeiss/Zeiss Jena design is great) but a lens designed mainly for wide open performance with use of advanced glass types like the 1.2 or 1.4

RE: Rare 35mm lenses (was Re: Melbourne lens shopping + Beethoven's Ninth.)

2002-04-20 Thread £ukasz Kacperczyk
Wasn't Canon lens a f/0.95 and not f/0.79? I'm pretty sure it was. Lukasz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mishka Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 7:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Rare 35mm lenses (was Re: Melbourne len

Re: Rare 35mm lenses (was Re: Melbourne lens shopping + Beethoven's Ninth.)

2002-04-19 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Some one, some the other, and some both. Mishka wrote: > I guess, what I want to know is, those are that expensive simply because > they have collectible status, or because they blow away all the competition? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discus

Re: Rare 35mm lenses (was Re: Melbourne lens shopping + Beethoven's Ninth.)

2002-04-19 Thread Bob Rapp
Still, FA* 85/1.4 goes for what (older) A*85/1.4 and (a lot > older and slower) K85/1.8 I don't have doubts that they are good. My > question is, are they *that* good? The K85/1.8 is very rare and sought after both as user and collectable. Optically, it is the same as the SMC Takumar. It is a sup

Re: Rare 35mm lenses (was Re: Melbourne lens shopping + Beethoven's Ninth.)

2002-04-19 Thread Rob Studdert
On 20 Apr 2002 at 1:00, Mishka wrote: > As far as I understand, A* lenses have never been victims of "economics and > saleability". Still, FA* 85/1.4 goes for what (older) A*85/1.4 and (a lot older > and slower) K85/1.8 I don't have doubts that they are good. My question is, are > they *that* goo

Re: Rare 35mm lenses (was Re: Melbourne lens shopping + Beethoven's Ninth.)

2002-04-19 Thread Mishka
> IMHO, the "limited" lenses are restoring their glory. The "K" > series was produced at time that quality meant everything. Then economics > and saleability prevailed. As far as I understand, A* lenses have never been victims of "economics and saleability". Still, FA* 85/1.4 goes for what (older

Re: Rare 35mm lenses (was Re: Melbourne lens shopping + Beethoven's Ninth.)

2002-04-19 Thread Mishka
I guess, what I want to know is, those are that expensive simply because they have collectible status, or because they blow away all the competition? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the

Re: Rare 35mm lenses (was Re: Melbourne lens shopping + Beethoven's Ninth.)

2002-04-19 Thread Bob Rapp
From: "Mishka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 2:06 PM > i feel like i am completely missing something here. are these lenses > "collectibles" (i wasn't aware pentax glass has this status) or simply so > much better than competition (i mean, cannon 85/1

Re: Rare 35mm lenses (was Re: Melbourne lens shopping + Beethoven's Ninth.)

2002-04-19 Thread Mishka
From: "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 11:34 PM Subject: Re: Rare 35mm lenses (was Re: Melbourne lens shopping + Beethoven's Ninth.) > > I know, I know, someone of you traded a used 50mm f2 and some > > bubble

Re: Rare 35mm lenses (was Re: Melbourne lens shopping + Beethoven's Ninth.)

2002-04-19 Thread Fred
> I know, I know, someone of you traded a used 50mm f2 and some > bubble gum wrappers for one. But most of the rest of us, we spend > years looking for these lenses. I was fortunate enough to be able to find some of the "toughies" you mentioned (A* 135/1.8, A* 85/1.4, K 85/1.8) before they (rece

Rare 35mm lenses (was Re: Melbourne lens shopping + Beethoven's Ninth.)

2002-04-19 Thread Rfsindg
Paul, I think Mishka asked the right question about cost and availability. The K 85/1.8 is one of the most expensive and rare Pentax 35mm lenses. The other two are the A*135/1.8 and the A*85/1.4. You just can't find them, or when you do, they are outrageously expensive. I know, I know, som