Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mar 18, 2006, at 6:10 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Since when does the fisheye effect need to be obvious or tiresome? Putting modesty aside, I could display for your consideration: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3760021 Yes, it's a good shot and shows that excellent work not obviou

Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-18 Thread Rick Womer
That's the point. The fisheye makes some shots "work" that otherwise wouldn't, but one has to be careful. Rick --- David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > G'day Rick, > > Great shot, but the fisheye effect isn't that > obvious. So in that > series of yours it isn't tiresome. > > Dave > >

Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-18 Thread David Savage
G'day Rick, Great shot, but the fisheye effect isn't that obvious. So in that series of yours it isn't tiresome. Dave On 3/19/06, Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since when does the fisheye effect need to be obvious > or tiresome? Putting modesty aside, I could display > for your consi

Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
Good one! You might consider cloning out the feet and white clothing on the right. But, overall, a very good example of how fisheyes can produce desirable results. Paul On Mar 18, 2006, at 9:10 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Since when does the fisheyeoody aside, I could display for your consideration

Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-18 Thread Rick Womer
Since when does the fisheye effect need to be obvious or tiresome? Putting modesty aside, I could display for your consideration: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3760021 Rick --- David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/17/06, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > It'

Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "David Savage" Subject: Re: OT 4 months Thanks Bill, Very much appreciated. I owe you a drink. Buy John Forbes a drink instead... It evens things out a bit. William Robb

Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-17 Thread David J Brooks
Quoting "E.R.N. Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: This list is making you buy all that non-Pentax stuff? How? I'm puzzled ... Just trying to even up the bags.:-) Besides, i confuse easly. Dave

Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-17 Thread David Savage
On 3/17/06, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "David Savage" > Subject: Re: OT 4 months > > > > > > > By any chance would have a high res. jpg with the exif info or DNG > > f

Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "David Savage" Subject: Re: OT 4 months By any chance would have a high res. jpg with the exif info or DNG file that you wouldn't mind emailing me to practice with? www.komkon.org/~wrobb/IMGP0391.PEF It's a full 13mb file. William Robb

Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-17 Thread E.R.N. Reed
David J Brooks wrote: I told my wife, no camera equipment for 2006. So far i have ordered the D200, bought the Sigma 10-20 and am this close to getting the Tamron 90 macro for the Nikon mounts Damn i hate this list. lol This list is making you buy all that non-Pentax stuff? How? I'm puzzle

Re: Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-17 Thread mike wilson
> > From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/03/17 Fri PM 12:52:08 GMT > To: > Subject: Re: Re: OT 4 months > > > - Original Message - > From: "mike wilson" > Subject: Re: Re: OT 4 months > > &

Re: Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "mike wilson" Subject: Re: Re: OT 4 months Why does there need to be a fisheye effect? http://www.dvdtechcameras.com/gallery/zenitar/1/14.htm Not every picture can be so carefully contrived as to hide the lens curvature as some of t

Re: Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-17 Thread David Savage
On 3/17/06, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That's the plan. In general the fisheye effect gets tired quickly. > > Why does there need to be a fisheye effect? > http://www.dvdtechcameras.com/gallery/zenitar/1/14.htm There doesn't "need" to be, few of those examples show it though. Dave

Re: Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-17 Thread mike wilson
> > From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/03/17 Fri AM 09:37:50 GMT > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: OT 4 months > > On 3/17/06, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's a fun lens, but you will probab

Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-17 Thread David Savage
On 3/17/06, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's a fun lens, but you will probably want to become familiar with ways to > de-fisheye the images. > > William Robb > That's the plan. In general the fisheye effect gets tired quickly. By any chance would have a high res. jpg with the exif i

Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Mishka" Subject: Re: OT 4 months thanks to your hard work, i got one yesterday (together with *istdl) -- i like it quite a bit -- it seems to cover ~ 180deg at 10mm and it's still seriously wide (when defished) even at the long limit

Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Tim Øsleby" Subject: RE: OT 4 months That's the reason why I never have (and probably never will) owned a fisheye. Why order fish in the first place, when you will convert it to meat later? Feels like a broken record here ;-) It

RE: OT 4 months....

2006-03-16 Thread David J Brooks
te the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: David J Brooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17. mars 2006 02:32 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT 4 months I told my wife, no camera equipment fo

Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-16 Thread Mishka
thanks to your hard work, i got one yesterday (together with *istdl) -- i like it quite a bit -- it seems to cover ~ 180deg at 10mm and it's still seriously wide (when defished) even at the long limit. best, mishka On 3/16/06, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's a fun lens, but you

Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-16 Thread David J Brooks
I bought my Zenitar after seeing Franks at GFM last year. Bought as a fun lens only, but, its a decent lens non the less Dave Quoting Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I agree with Tim. I have the Zenitar 16/2.8 fish eye and it's a fun lens for occasional use, but when I want ultrawide a

RE: OT 4 months....

2006-03-16 Thread Tim Øsleby
age- > From: David J Brooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 17. mars 2006 02:32 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: OT 4 months > > I told my wife, no camera equipment for 2006. So far i have ordered the > D200, bought the Sigma 10-20 and am this close

Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-16 Thread David J Brooks
I told my wife, no camera equipment for 2006. So far i have ordered the D200, bought the Sigma 10-20 and am this close to getting the Tamron 90 macro for the Nikon mounts Damn i hate this list. lol Dave On Mar 16, 2006, at 6:23 AM, David Savage wrote: G'day All, In early November last y

Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Enjoy it. I almost made my "no new cameras for 12 months" plan last year ... but I bought the Panny LX1 at Thanksgiving time. Didn't last long: I sold it and bought the Sony R1. I'm pretty much done with Pentax purchases until the DA50-135/2.8 and the new 10Mpixel body are released. With

Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I agree with Tim. I have the Zenitar 16/2.8 fish eye and it's a fun lens for occasional use, but when I want ultrawide and rectilinear, I use the DA14/2.8 which is far superior. I bought the Zeni because it was fishy and would never de-fish it; I had the DA14 already. Godfrey On Mar 16, 20

RE: OT 4 months....

2006-03-16 Thread Tim Øsleby
rowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -Original Message- > From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 17. mars 2006 00:48 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: OT 4 months > > > - Original Message - >

Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Tim Øsleby" Subject: RE: OT 4 months Why de-fish? Why order fish, if you want meat? I'm not trying to be a smartass here. I don't get this. The 10-17 is a fisheye zoom. It's nice and wide, but the fisheye effect g

RE: OT 4 months....

2006-03-16 Thread Tim Øsleby
ginal Message- > From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 16. mars 2006 23:13 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: OT 4 months > > > - Original Message - > From: "David Savage" > Subject: OT 4 months > > > &g

Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "David Savage" Subject: OT 4 months The DA10-17 is the only lens that has tempted me to break my resolution. But when I was told that the local distributor didn't even know if the were going to import it I felt safe. My local camera store kindly offere