Bruce, the Tokina 28-80/2.8 is outstanding. I've tested it extensively and holds it's own against many primes. Much better than the Tokina 28-70/2.8, not a bad lens either. Robert James - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .