On 7 October 2010 00:31, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm gonna call that for what I see it as, which is a load of hot steamy pile
of dung.
I bet he chuckled later.
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On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 03:24:12AM +0200, eckinator wrote:
2010/10/6 John Celio n...@neovenator.com:
I think what Pentax needs to do now is put some sort of notice flyer in
the box with their SDM lenses. ?It would say that prolonged non-use
depletes the lens' stored charge, and to do what
2010/10/7 John Francis jo...@panix.com:
It still sounds like snake oil to me.
If the camera body is capable of delivering enough current to move a
fairly heavy mechanical assembly fast enough to auto-focus, it should
be able to charge up any purely electronic circuitry in milliseconds,
not
On 8 October 2010 04:18, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
I believe him. Gut feeling. Plus he is a tech and not a salesperson.
From an engineering perspective it really does sound like utter BS,
you're free to believe him and he might believe it himself but that
doesn't mean that it's true
Techs? More honest than sales? Hell, I'm a software engineer, I
learned early on that if you can't blind them with brilliance, you've
got to baffle them with bullshit. Truth is for when all else fails...
On 10/7/2010 1:18 PM, eckinator wrote:
2010/10/7 John Francisjo...@panix.com:
It
On 7 October 2010 16:36, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
Truth is for when all else fails...
MARK!
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I'd better let this go as I am out of my depth on the technical part
of it. All I know is there are things slower and faster to charge than
two minutes and that I am a tech myself and bullshit has never been
more than a last resort for me. But I'm not much of a faith discusser.
Ecke
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On 8 October 2010 08:14, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd better let this go as I am out of my depth on the technical part
of it. All I know is there are things slower and faster to charge than
two minutes and that I am a tech myself and bullshit has never been
more than a last resort
Greetings, earthlings =)
(In response to a thread I already deleted from my inbox)
Just had a talk with Pentax Europe's former technical service manager,
now 645D service (they will keep that in house) and I learned the
following:
- SDM failure rates are monitored and do not exceed those of other
Not surprised to hear that. It isn't a big leap to believe that much of the
problem is the result of typical Pentaxian hysteria.
Paul
On Oct 6, 2010, at 5:53 AM, eckinator wrote:
Greetings, earthlings =)
(In response to a thread I already deleted from my inbox)
Just had a talk with Pentax
eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
Just had a talk with Pentax Europe's former technical service manager,
now 645D service (they will keep that in house)...
Hear, hear...
Now, if only they'd decide that people who've spent over a grand for a
K-7 or K-5 also have a right to decent service.
On 10/6/2010 1:16 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
Not surprised to hear that. It isn't a big leap to believe that much
of the problem is the result of typical Pentaxian hysteria. Paul
Paul, would you make yet another leap and believe that such a hysteria
is in some way special to Pentaxians? ;-)
Thanks for the info, Ecke.
El 06/10/2010 11:53, eckinator escribió:
- SDM failure rates are monitored and do not exceed those of other components,
- Pentax is aware of the buzz about the issue but considers it unjustified,
- not every perceived failure necessarily is one. SDM motors hold a
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Subject: SDM / parts availability
- SDM failure rates are monitored and do not exceed those of other
components,
- Pentax is aware of the buzz about the issue but considers it
unjustified,
- not every perceived failure
2010/10/6 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de:
eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
Just had a talk with Pentax Europe's former technical service manager,
now 645D service (they will keep that in house)...
Hear, hear...
Now, if only they'd decide that people who've spent over a grand for a
Did Nikon (or anyone else) have similar problems?
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 1:16 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
2010/10/6 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de:
eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
Just had a talk with Pentax Europe's former technical service manager,
now 645D
- not every perceived failure necessarily is one. SDM motors hold a
charge which depletes after prolonged (months) non-use. Once
discharged, the lens will no longer focus. The charge takes up to two
minutes to rebuild, i.e. the lens needs to be left alone for that time
while connected to a
I suppose the best approach is to just take it out periodically and
attach it for a while so it never gets completely depleted. Ecke, did
they indicate how often this might be?
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 2:28 PM, John Celio n...@neovenator.com wrote:
- not every perceived failure necessarily is
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
Did Nikon (or anyone else) have similar problems?
Not so much with AF motors or such, but with the camera. I read about
the board crash problems and bought one anyway. Sure enough mine
crashed at 4800 clicks. I mentioned
2010/10/6 Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com:
I suppose the best approach is to just take it out periodically and
attach it for a while so it never gets completely depleted. Ecke, did
they indicate how often this might be?
Sorry, Steven, no such answer but I took the description to indicate
2010/10/6 William Robb war...@gmail.com:
And while not wanting to play the devil's advocate here, which moron at
Pentax decided to make a product which could fail in the box, on the shelf,
at the camera store?
wasn't SDM re-use of an expired Canon USM patent in the first place?
I realize
2010/10/6 John Celio n...@neovenator.com:
I think what Pentax needs to do now is put some sort of notice flyer in
the box with their SDM lenses. It would say that prolonged non-use
depletes the lens' stored charge, and to do what the service manager
described above if the lens' drive won't
On 10/6/2010 11:45 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
A month later *Nikon put on their website in a statement* that the D2H
is prone to failure of the AF board, and they will fix the problem
even if the camera is out of the warranty period.
Mark!
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