In a message dated 8/31/01 2:24:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Subject: Re: More Yipping from the PUG Guy That's crazy. We enjoy Pentax cameras and lenses but give me a break. Third party lens makers are an important part of most photographer's arsenals. I for one own two Tokina ATX lenses that I consider better than anything Pentax makes in that size (Tokina 100-300F4 ATX and 90F2.5 macro). I don't write down what lens I use to take a picture, it's not that important to me. i use a Pentax camera and the best lens I can to get the picture. it's the picture that counts not the lens used to take it... I can undertstand that all pics be taken with a pentax camera but you won't convince me on the lenses.... vic - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .