[Fwd: Re: The Calm Photographer]

2009-02-03 Thread Doug Franklin
Original Message Being a flagger, I'm attuned to the flaggers on the track when I'm driving. I've gotten the advantage in one way or another quite a few times by noticing a flagger reaching for a flag. Saved me from some real idiots when they threw one during our Driver's Schoo

Re: The Calm Photographer

2009-02-03 Thread Doug Franklin
Joseph McAllister wrote: Another very likely analysis. PS, I freakin' *hate* top-of-the-hill blind corners for exactly the same reason ... you've got to be getting the car to turn at exactly the moment it has the least traction. Turns 3 and 11 at Road Atlanta have aspects of that to them.

Re: The Calm Photographer

2009-02-03 Thread Joseph McAllister
Another very likely analysis. On Feb 2, 2009, at 22:13 , Doug Franklin wrote: Joseph McAllister wrote: What I can't fathom is why that car hit the immovable object in the first place. It may have gotten light when it crested the rise, but it was fully down on it's suspension shortly there

Re: The Calm Photographer

2009-02-03 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Ken Waller wrote: > Sounds plausible to me. Yeah. Or, in layman's terms, "he kind of lost it and bashed into the barrier." ;-) cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://

Re: The Calm Photographer

2009-02-03 Thread Ken Waller
Sounds plausible to me. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Doug Franklin" Subject: Re: The Calm Photographer Joseph McAllister wrote: What I can't fathom is why that car hit the immovable object in the first place. It may ha

Re: The Calm Photographer

2009-02-02 Thread Doug Franklin
Larry Colen wrote: I suspect that you also try to keep an eye on the communicators and if you see them reaching for the mike or grabbing a flag that's a good clue. I watch everyone and everything. The station might be between the fences, but it's still exposed and vulnerable. I'm especially

Re: The Calm Photographer

2009-02-02 Thread Doug Franklin
Joseph McAllister wrote: What I can't fathom is why that car hit the immovable object in the first place. It may have gotten light when it crested the rise, but it was fully down on it's suspension shortly thereafter, and seemingly in control. Perhaps he was trying to start a drift to cross th

Re: OT: The Calm Photographer

2009-01-30 Thread David J Brooks
WOW, good find. This is part of the reason i gave up shooting indoor horse shows. I needed to get into the ring to get any angles worth shooting. I'v been brushed back a few times. I think i would be on the losing end if they were 2-3" closer Dave On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 3:18 AM, David Savage w

Re: The Calm Photographer

2009-01-29 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:39:29PM -0500, Doug Franklin wrote: > > But my point has nothing to do with the laws or even the insurance > contract. My point is that /my/ ass is worth more to /me/ than to stand > in a place like he chose, for any reason whatsoever. I cannot fathom > his choice

Re: The Calm Photographer

2009-01-29 Thread Ken Waller
and there were three camermen. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Christian" Subject: Re: The Calm Photographer The whole thing is a government conspiracy, the car was driven by gray aliens, the photographer is a CIA operativ

Re: The Calm Photographer

2009-01-29 Thread Doug Franklin
Paul Ewins wrote: Our laws (Australia) make it fairly clear that it is up to the organizers to make sure people stay out of harms way. If he was in Australia and he had been hit and nothing had been done to try and prevent him standing in a dangerous position then he would have reasonable cause

Re: The Calm Photographer

2009-01-29 Thread Doug Franklin
Christian wrote: The whole thing is a government conspiracy, the car was driven by gray aliens, the photographer is a CIA operative, and the video was shot from behind a grassy knoll. No, /I/ was shot from behind a grassy knoll. Or was it me shooting /from/ a grassy knoll. Damn, too many CI

Re: The Calm Photographer

2009-01-29 Thread Christian
The whole thing is a government conspiracy, the car was driven by gray aliens, the photographer is a CIA operative, and the video was shot from behind a grassy knoll. -- Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/ Joseph McAllister wrote: On Jan 29, 2009, at 16:07 , Doug Franklin wrot

Re: The Calm Photographer

2009-01-29 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Jan 29, 2009, at 16:07 , Doug Franklin wrote: Bob Sullivan wrote: Look again, I think that's a bridge abutment that protected him. He looks like he is standing on the down road side of a concrete bridge. I'll have to watch it again, because I missed that. In that case, I'll cut him s

RE: The Calm Photographer

2009-01-29 Thread Paul Ewins
I've also put in quite a few hours trackside, usually doing communications alongside the flaggies. At our events nobody gets that close to the track and usually it is only the credentialed photographers who are allowed on the other side of the fence. We won't even let them stand on a tirewall in ca

Re: The Calm Photographer

2009-01-29 Thread Larry Colen
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 07:10:01PM -0500, Doug Franklin wrote: # Larry Colen wrote: # # >I know what I do to keep track of cars when I'm working a corner, I'd # >be interested to read what folks do when shooting. # # My ears have become the eyes in the back of my head. And I'm wearing Ayup. T

Re: The Calm Photographer

2009-01-29 Thread Doug Franklin
Larry Colen wrote: I know what I do to keep track of cars when I'm working a corner, I'd be interested to read what folks do when shooting. My ears have become the eyes in the back of my head. And I'm wearing out the cartilage in my neck swiveling my eyes around. And I try to keep a "swim

Re: The Calm Photographer

2009-01-29 Thread Doug Franklin
Bob Sullivan wrote: Look again, I think that's a bridge abutment that protected him. He looks like he is standing on the down road side of a concrete bridge. I'll have to watch it again, because I missed that. In that case, I'll cut him some slack. :-) I still don't think it's the safest pl

Re: The Calm Photographer

2009-01-29 Thread Larry Colen
As someone who has worked corners, raced, and taught driving at tracks over the past 20 years, I'll pretty much second what Doug said, with the caveat that we don't know what was out of frame. I know what I do to keep track of cars when I'm working a corner, I'd be interested to read what folks do

Re: The Calm Photographer

2009-01-29 Thread Bob Sullivan
Doug, Look again, I think that's a bridge abutment that protected him. He looks like he is standing on the down road side of a concrete bridge. Still not much of a place to roost... Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Doug Franklin wrote: > John Francis wrote: >> >> Oh, I don't thin

Re: The Calm Photographer

2009-01-29 Thread Doug Franklin
John Francis wrote: Oh, I don't think it's that unusual. At least for me, it's not unusual to relax trackside with my camera at my side. What's unusual is doing that when a car is coming. That's when the good shots present themselves. When you're photographing an event like this you don'

Re: The Calm Photographer

2009-01-29 Thread Doug Franklin
Joseph McAllister wrote: Once you've got 30 pictures of cars coming over the rise, only the unusual will pique your interest. :-) Yeah, but to get the unusual, you pretty much have to face every car that comes over the rise, and follow it out of view, prepared on a millisecond's notice to cap

Re: OT: The Calm Photographer

2009-01-29 Thread Doug Franklin
David Savage wrote: I don't know if this has been posted here, but I thought this was kinda' trippy: Dude!!! That sort of stuff is /exactly/ why I never feel comfortable on the "hot side" of the fences with a camera up to my fa

Re: The Calm Photographer

2009-01-29 Thread Joseph McAllister
after the crash. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "David Savage" Subject: OT: The Calm Photographer I don't know if this has been posted here, but I thought this was kinda' trippy: <http://kenbrownart.com/2009/01/very-calm-ph

Re: OT: The Calm Photographer

2009-01-29 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 3:18 AM, David Savage wrote: I don't know if this has been posted here, but I thought this was kinda' trippy: Dude!!! Not only do I like the tip-toe stance, but the raising of his camera to just ab

Re: The Calm Photographer

2009-01-29 Thread John Francis
29, 2009 at 01:14:15PM -0500, Ken Waller wrote: > Great sequence. > Location, location, location. > I find it funny he's just watching, doesn't even raise his camera until > after the crash. > > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f > > - Original

Re: The Calm Photographer

2009-01-29 Thread Ken Waller
Great sequence. Location, location, location. I find it funny he's just watching, doesn't even raise his camera until after the crash. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "David Savage" Subject: OT: The Calm Photographer

Re: OT: The Calm Photographer

2009-01-29 Thread Luiz Felipe
Amazing! I hope only their pride got hurt. LF David Savage escreveu: I don't know if this has been posted here, but I thought this was kinda' trippy: Dude!!! Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http:/

Re: OT: The Calm Photographer

2009-01-29 Thread m.9.wilson
Bob Sullivan wrote: > Love the little bull fighter move (up onto his toes) as the car passes. > Lucky none of the flying parts hit him. > Regards, Bob S. Watch the camera strap. _That's_ close. You would have to hope that it snapped instead of providing 0-60-0 acceleration via one arm.

Re: OT: The Calm Photographer

2009-01-29 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 3:18 AM, David Savage wrote: > I don't know if this has been posted here, but I thought this was kinda' > trippy: > > > > Dude!!! Zoiks! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartie

Re: OT: The Calm Photographer

2009-01-29 Thread Peter Alling
No brain, no pain, more likely... -Original Message- >From: Derby Chang >Sent: Jan 29, 2009 3:30 AM >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: OT: The Calm Photographer > >David Savage wrote: >> I don't know if this has been posted here, but I thoug

Re: OT: The Calm Photographer

2009-01-29 Thread Bob Sullivan
Love the little bull fighter move (up onto his toes) as the car passes. Lucky none of the flying parts hit him. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 2:18 AM, David Savage wrote: > I don't know if this has been posted here, but I thought this was kinda' > trippy: > >

RE: The Calm Photographer

2009-01-29 Thread Bob W
The video cameraman seems to have stood up to the impact quite well too. > > I don't know if this has been posted here, but I thought this > was kinda' trippy: > > > > Dude!!! > > > Cheers, > > Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss M

Re: OT: The Calm Photographer

2009-01-29 Thread Derby Chang
David Savage wrote: I don't know if this has been posted here, but I thought this was kinda' trippy: Dude!!! Cheers, Dave Testicles of Tungsten. -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pen

OT: The Calm Photographer

2009-01-29 Thread David Savage
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