Re: They're stealing our PHOTOGRAPHS!!!!!!

2012-04-09 Thread Charles Robinson
On Apr 8, 2012, at 1:48, David Mann wrote: > On Apr 8, 2012, at 7:57 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > >> On 4/7/2012 1:01 AM, Tim Bray wrote: >>> Well, even if you were right about the omnipotence of the lobbies, >>> there are now other lobbies. And popular action is not without >>> influence. SOPA fai

Re: They're stealing our PHOTOGRAPHS!!!!!!

2012-04-08 Thread Larry Colen
On Apr 7, 2012, at 7:42 PM, Darren Addy wrote: > On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 1:55 AM, Bob W wrote: >> Where have all the hippies gone? Gone to boardrooms every one. > > Reminds me of a t-shirt/Vonnegut quote I enjoyed seeing recently: > http://www.yaliberty.org/posts/i-liked-my-high-school-but-this-

RE: They're stealing our PHOTOGRAPHS!!!!!!

2012-04-08 Thread Bob W
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > Darren Addy > > On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 1:55 AM, Bob W wrote: > > Where have all the hippies gone? Gone to boardrooms every one. > > Reminds me of a t-shirt/Vonnegut quote I enjoyed seeing recently: > http://www.yaliberty

Re: They're stealing our PHOTOGRAPHS!!!!!!

2012-04-07 Thread David Mann
On Apr 8, 2012, at 7:57 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > On 4/7/2012 1:01 AM, Tim Bray wrote: >> Well, even if you were right about the omnipotence of the lobbies, >> there are now other lobbies. And popular action is not without >> influence. SOPA failed in Congress. -T > > SOPA's not dead yet, it's o

Re: They're stealing our PHOTOGRAPHS!!!!!!

2012-04-07 Thread John Sessoms
From: DagT Den 7. apr. 2012 kl. 21:00 skrev John Sessoms: From: "Bob W" From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen [...] I think that while the big publishing houses are cranking the screws down tighter, and pissing people off, the folks who grew up

Re: They're stealing our PHOTOGRAPHS!!!!!!

2012-04-07 Thread Darren Addy
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 1:55 AM, Bob W wrote: > Where have all the hippies gone? Gone to boardrooms every one. Reminds me of a t-shirt/Vonnegut quote I enjoyed seeing recently: http://www.yaliberty.org/posts/i-liked-my-high-school-but-this-is-still-completely-true -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail Lis

Re: They're stealing our PHOTOGRAPHS!!!!!!

2012-04-07 Thread Subash
On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 15:00:05 -0400 John Sessoms wrote: > > But when you're old enough to be the government you're at the age > > when you (your generation) owns everything, incuding the music > > industry, so you're going to clamp down on those damn kids who > > don't respect the law. > > > > Whe

Re: They're stealing our PHOTOGRAPHS!!!!!!

2012-04-07 Thread DagT
Den 7. apr. 2012 kl. 21:00 skrev John Sessoms: > From: "Bob W" > >>> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of >>> Larry Colen >> [...] >>> I think that while the big publishing houses are cranking the screws >>> down tighter, and pissing people off, the folks who g

Re: They're stealing our PHOTOGRAPHS!!!!!!

2012-04-07 Thread P. J. Alling
On 4/7/2012 1:01 AM, Tim Bray wrote: Well, even if you were right about the omnipotence of the lobbies, there are now other lobbies. And popular action is not without influence. SOPA failed in Congress. -T SOPA's not dead yet, it's only restin'. Plenty of time to pass it or something even mor

RE: They're stealing our PHOTOGRAPHS!!!!!!

2012-04-07 Thread John Sessoms
From: "Bob W" From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen [...] I think that while the big publishing houses are cranking the screws down tighter, and pissing people off, the folks who grew up with file sharing, at one point, will have the governmental p

Re: They're stealing our PHOTOGRAPHS!!!!!!

2012-04-07 Thread kwaller
Where have all the hippies gone? Gone to boardrooms every one. Don't forget politics - in the U S we're seeing alot of them resurfacing. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Bob W" Subject: RE: They're

RE: They're stealing our PHOTOGRAPHS!!!!!!

2012-04-06 Thread Bob W
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > Larry Colen [...] > I think that while the big publishing houses are cranking the screws > down tighter, and pissing people off, the folks who grew up with file > sharing, at one point, will have the governmental power, and

Re: They're stealing our PHOTOGRAPHS!!!!!!

2012-04-06 Thread Tim Bray
Well, even if you were right about the omnipotence of the lobbies, there are now other lobbies. And popular action is not without influence. SOPA failed in Congress. -T On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 8:17 PM, David Parsons wrote: > I doubt that.  People always think that the next generation will make >

Re: They're stealing our PHOTOGRAPHS!!!!!!

2012-04-06 Thread David Parsons
I doubt that. People always think that the next generation will make changes to laws that make sense. Politicians need money to get re-elected, and they will vote the way that their monetary supporters (lobbyists) want them to. As long as the MPAA and RIAA are powerful lobbies, things won't chan

Re: They're stealing our PHOTOGRAPHS!!!!!!

2012-04-06 Thread Larry Colen
On Apr 6, 2012, at 7:47 PM, David Parsons wrote: > After the case is won. You still have to pay your lawyer up front. > Copyright cases are notoriously expensive to fight. I expect the whole issue of copyright is going to go through a seismic shift in the not too far distant future, and that w

Re: They're stealing our PHOTOGRAPHS!!!!!!

2012-04-06 Thread David Parsons
After the case is won. You still have to pay your lawyer up front. Copyright cases are notoriously expensive to fight. On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 9:52 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > From: Miserere > >> And the sky is falling, etc. >> >> They Are Stealing Our Work!, by Alain Briot: >> >> http://www.lumino

re: They're stealing our PHOTOGRAPHS!!!!!!

2012-04-06 Thread John Sessoms
From: Miserere And the sky is falling, etc. They Are Stealing Our Work!, by Alain Briot: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/they_are_stealing_our_work.shtml I imagine Mark will enjoy this article Hopefully he can tell us how to combat these thieves too. Cheers, If the copyright is *

Re: They're stealing our PHOTOGRAPHS!!!!!!

2012-04-06 Thread Mark Roberts
Miserere wrote: >And the sky is falling, etc. > >They Are Stealing Our Work!, by Alain Briot: > >http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/they_are_stealing_our_work.shtml > >I imagine Mark will enjoy this article Hopefully he can tell us how to >combat these thieves too. Funny, I just read that

They're stealing our PHOTOGRAPHS!!!!!!

2012-04-06 Thread Miserere
And the sky is falling, etc. They Are Stealing Our Work!, by Alain Briot: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/they_are_stealing_our_work.shtml I imagine Mark will enjoy this article Hopefully he can tell us how to combat these thieves too. Cheers,    —M.     \/\/o/\/\ --> http://WorldO