[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'll give you that. In street photography a tripod is a hinderance but in > most situations, I maintain that a tripod is vital to good photographs. "Vital" or "useful". To "good" photographs or to "technically perfect" photographs or to "the best" photographs? "Most situations" meaning most types of situations on a list of situations, or the situations in which most photographs are taken? You have a very good point about the benefits of tripods, but I think you may be both overstating the case and failing to account for how many different approaches to photography there are. > With > the exception of a few cases, photographers who argue otherwise are lazy or > are willing to accept fuzzy pictures. _Sometimes_ I'm willing to accept pictures that are less than _ideally_ sharp, if they're sharp enough for the size I'll print them. Sure, I'd rather have them sharper, but sometmes I use a zoom instead of a prime anyhow, or use my cheap 400/6.8 lens, or use a teleconverter, or don't bother to add a tripod to the three bodies and bag of lenses I'm carrying around all afternoon. Sometimes it's laziness (and I'll admit that!) and sometimes it's practicality. If I'm carrying my camera "just in case a photographic subject jumps in front of me while I'm running errands", the camera is there to get the picture that I wouldn't have gotten if I didn't carry a camera that day. A "sharp enough but not as sharp as technically possible" image is better than not getting the image at all. (There are exceptions -- I've seen things that were only worth shooting if I had the time and the right lens to do them properly, and passed them by. But there are plenty of images that are worthwhile _pictures_ even if imperfect.) The same reasoning also leads me to use Fuji Super HG 1600 or Konica SR-G sometimes. Then again, most of what I've just described counts as either street photography or event photography. But gee, that's an awfull lot of photography. But what about "petraits"? Sure, I could put the camera on a tripod, manipulate the cat into a classic pose, and squeeze the bulb on my air release, but the reason people want _me_ to photograph their animals is that I catch the critters expressing _their_personality_, and the way I shoot cats is a bit difficult with a tripod. (Though I will put a _flash_ on a tripod with a long cable or an optical slave.) Even humans -- if someone comes to me for a formal sitting, well first of all I'm not equipped for that really (yet), but yeah, that'd be the time to put the camera on a tripod and carefully think through the shot, the pose, the angle, the lighting, and make the portrait as technically perfect as I can while also making it art. But when it's a spur-of-the-moment thing, I've got to get the job done before my subject gets _bored_, and I'm going to move around, camera in hand, and shoot when I find the view I want. _Can_ that be done with a tripod? Yes. I'm probably not going to do it quickly with a tripod just yet (though I should practice). Of course, the tripod may still be in the car, a long walk away, when the moment happens. For the flower shots I've been doing in my back yard this Spring and Summer, I use a camera support (usually a tripod) for most of the shots. Sometimes I can't get the tripod where I'd need it to be, but usually there's a tripod involved.. This afternoon I was photographing a cat that I surprised in my yard -- it ran next door and watched me suspiciously. With the geometry of the fence I was shooting around the end of, and my back porch, there was physically no way to set up a tripod. The cat stayed put long enough that I would have had time to set one up, but not long enough for me to get out wood, drill, and saw, and fabricate a custom bracket to hang the camera out off my porch railing. And that's what it would have taken to make that shot with a camera support. What about birds and other wildlife? Sometimes there'll be time to adjust a tripod. Other times it counts as action photography. Come to think of it, what about sports? I've seen monopods on the sidelines, but I don't recall having seen a tripod there. Am I misremembering? Landscapes? I should use a tripod. Sometimes I do. Sometimes I get lazy. Sometimes I look at the meter and realize I'm going to be shooting 1/2000 with a 35mm lens and figure I can probably handhold that safely. (Yes, that may also indicate that I happen to have a faster film loaded than would be optimal. It happens.) I don't see myself using a tripod if I'm shooting from a ladder. *shrug* Still-life? I should use a tripod -- after all, I've methodically composed and arranged stuff, so why get lazy on the last step? Fire or accident scene? Hand-held. Macro? Hah. When I get my hands on one of those fine-adjustment rail thingies, sure. Until then, I've got other tricks that get the job done. Maybe not quite as _well_, but as good as I'm going to get _for_now_. I'd rather _get_the_shot_. Am I lazy? *Sometimes*, and I admit it. But am I lazy every time I decide not to use a tripod for non-street-photography? Is the tripod _necessary_ for every non-street-photography situation? Are my standards _really_ too low if I shoot a mountain at 1/2000 without a tripod? (Or are my standards too low because I shoot a mountain on something smaller than 4x5 sheet film?) Or are your standards snobbishly high because _your_ subjects and style are such that a tripod does make sense for most of _your_ photos? Some of my best photos were made using a tripod. Some of my best photos were made on days when I really didn't expect to be photographing anything and didn't even have a tripod in the car. The tripod is a tool. One of many. Sometimes you need a torque wrench to get something tightened a precise amount, and other times you just give it a good yank with an ordinary spanner -- insisting that the torque on each and every nut be measured precisely is as foolish as not bothering to use the right tool where it matters is lazy. If your point is that tripods are underused, you're probably right. But you undermined your case by cartoonishly overstating it. -- Glenn - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .