Re: What Causes This?

2005-10-24 Thread Andre Langevin
I had this happen once with E100VS. There was nothing wrong with the exposure. It was disappointing, because I liked the shot otherwise. The scene was a blue door against a brown adobe (mud brick) wall. But I am not sure that it wasn't the scanner that did it, and it would take a long time to l

Re: What Causes This?

2005-10-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
, October 21, 2005 8:29 PM Subject: Re: What Causes This? Most of the images contained no banding however a few did and those I suspect were the ones that were shot with the LED just out of the feild of capture. What I did determine from the somewhat haphazard test is that the power system in t

Re: What Causes This?

2005-10-21 Thread Herb Chong
i'm thinking of different power supply regulation in different models. Herb - Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 8:51 PM Subject: Re: What Causes This? Shel doesn't have a *istD. He has

Re: What Causes This?

2005-10-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
And don't forget, the shot was made with an istD. We certainly are one family, some happier than others ... Shel > [Original Message] > From: Rob Studdert > Herb Chong wrote: > > > Shel doesn't have a *istD. > > He has the same sensor though, we (Pentax DSLR shooters) all do, > it's just o

Re: What Causes This?

2005-10-21 Thread Rob Studdert
On 21 Oct 2005 at 20:36, Herb Chong wrote: > Shel doesn't have a *istD. He has the same sensor though, we (Pentax DSLR shooters) all do, it's just one happy family. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distud

Re: What Causes This?

2005-10-21 Thread Herb Chong
Shel doesn't have a *istD. Herb - Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 8:29 PM Subject: Re: What Causes This? Most of the images contained no banding however a few did and those I suspect were th

Re: What Causes This?

2005-10-21 Thread Rob Studdert
On 21 Oct 2005 at 9:42, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > I always use somewhat tighter, if not necessarily optimally sized, > hoods. > > But I don't think that this is the cause of the problem. The cause > seems to be a combination of underexposure and effects of fluctuating > power. I've never se

Re: What Causes This?

2005-10-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Re: What Causes This? Hi, ISO was 200. Shot was underexposed by a couple of stops. That'll do it. You can't do that with digital. William Robb

Re: What Causes This?

2005-10-21 Thread Rob Smith
From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: What Causes This? http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/SB_0010.jpg What causes the horizontal stripes on the subject's arm? Camera: istD Hi Shel, Possibly the two stops underexposed gives a clue in that we may well be seeing posterisatio

Re: What Causes This?

2005-10-21 Thread Joseph Tainter
http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/SB_0010.jpg What causes the horizontal stripes on the subject's arm? Camera: istD Shel -- I had this happen once with E100VS. There was nothing wrong with the exposure. It was disappointing, because I liked the shot otherwise. The scene was a

Re: What Causes This?

2005-10-21 Thread P. J. Alling
Underexposing is pretty much the same thing as using a higher ISO and amplifying the signal from the sensor. Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hi, ISO was 200. Shot was underexposed by a couple of stops. Shel [Original Message] From: Rob Studdert http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinko

Re: What Causes This?

2005-10-21 Thread John Celio
http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/SB_0010.jpg What causes the horizontal stripes on the subject's arm? Camera: istD I think it means you need to stop shooting through screen doors :) John Celio ...is in a good mood today, it being his 27th birfday... -- http://www.neovenator.com AIM

Re: What Causes This?

2005-10-21 Thread David Savage
G'day Shel The only times I see this are either on underexposed shots, where I had to do major PP to get a usable image, or when shooting at high ISO. At High ISO, generally the first 2 or 3 shots taken in quick succession are fine but after that it becomes noticeable. An example can be found here

Re: What Causes This?

2005-10-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I always use somewhat tighter, if not necessarily optimally sized, hoods. But I don't think that this is the cause of the problem. The cause seems to be a combination of underexposure and effects of fluctuating power. I've never seen this kind of banding on any of my cameras without under

Re: What Causes This?

2005-10-21 Thread Bob Blakely
It's a "digital" moiré pattern and usually an artifact of digital processing within the camera. How was the photo saved? Raw?, jpg? how much compression, if any? Regards, Bob... By all means, marry. If you get a good wife, you

Re: What Causes This?

2005-10-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
The shot I posted was made on Bruce's D using, I think, an A50/2.0 lens. I don't recall what hood I used with it - probably a normal 50mm hood. The shot was one of the first dozen shots I ever made using a DSLR With my DS, I always use tighter hoods. For example, for the 50mm I use the hood fro

Re: What Causes This?

2005-10-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
There are several causes. Here are three: #1. The wrong film. #2. Exhausted developer. #3. Exhausted fixer. #4. Low ink levels/dirty heads. ... and most important of all ... #5. Unrealistic expectations of the medium. Collin (Frydays come too quickly) Brendemuehl KC8TKA ---

Re: What Causes This?

2005-10-21 Thread Rob Studdert
On 21 Oct 2005 at 6:53, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > Hi, > > ISO was 200. Shot was underexposed by a couple of stops. Fair enough, are you using tighter hoods on your lenses than you would for 35mm full frame use? Why I ask is that I have a yet unproved theory that the sort of banding you saw may

Re: What Causes This?

2005-10-21 Thread pnstenquist
There you have it. Artifacts like these will sometimes appear in the shadow area of underexposed shots. You can sometimes get lucky with two stops under and end up with a nice image, but it's always a stretch. Of course, two stops under with color neg film returns nothing but grainy mush, so I g

Re: What Causes This?

2005-10-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi, ISO was 200. Shot was underexposed by a couple of stops. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Rob Studdert > > http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/SB_0010.jpg > > > > What causes the horizontal stripes on the subject's arm? > > > > Camera: istD > > That's banding, it's a sensor/electr

Re: What Causes This?

2005-10-21 Thread frank theriault
On 10/21/05, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/SB_0010.jpg > > What causes the horizontal stripes on the subject's arm? > > Camera: istD > poor hygene? -frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: What Causes This?

2005-10-21 Thread Rob Studdert
On 21 Oct 2005 at 6:33, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/SB_0010.jpg > > What causes the horizontal stripes on the subject's arm? > > Camera: istD That's banding, it's a sensor/electronics artifact. I can only assume it's an high ISO shot or alternately the shot h

Re: What Causes This?

2005-10-21 Thread Don Williams
Is it noise perhaps? Shel Belinkoff wrote: http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/SB_0010.jpg What causes the horizontal stripes on the subject's arm? Camera: istD Shel -- Dr E D F Williams ___ http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams See feature: The Cem

What Causes This?

2005-10-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/SB_0010.jpg What causes the horizontal stripes on the subject's arm? Camera: istD Shel