From: Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com
Hi Rob, Mark, Paul, et al,
Stan nicely elaborated on what I was trying to say last night. There's
absolutely nothing wrong with taking tons of shots to capture the
exact moment(s). With a dynamic moving subject that's clearly
desirable, if not a
From: Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:
How stupid do you think I am?
Well, you shoot Pentax, so I have a guess as to Tom's opinion.
Matthew,
That implication would be wrong as my catalog of images that I
consider to be good
On Oct 30, 2013, at 7:31 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:
On Oct 30, 2013, at 3:20 PM, Eric Weir wrote:
On Oct 30, 2013, at 3:01 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:
In my opinion taking a lot of shots does not improve one's photography
any more than throwing a 1000 darts at a dartboard blind
Achoo..
but I had to add a couple of cents..
On Oct 30, 2013, at 7:31 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:
While seriously shooting, sometimes fast changing conditions call for fast
reactions and many shots in a short period. But dozens or hundreds of
poorly framed,
poorly exposed shots aren't going to
On Oct 31, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
Achoo..
but I had to add a couple of cents..
On Oct 30, 2013, at 7:31 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:
While seriously shooting, sometimes fast changing conditions call for fast
reactions and many shots in a short period. But dozens or hundreds
but it was an extremely
unique/dynamic/once in a lifetime event.
Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
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From: Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info
Subject: Re: White-Faced Heron
On Oct 30, 2013, at 7:31 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:
On Oct 30, 2013, at 3
On 10/31/2013 15:37, Stan Halpin wrote:
On Oct 31, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
Achoo..
but I had to add a couple of cents..
On Oct 30, 2013, at 7:31 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:
While seriously shooting, sometimes fast changing conditions call for fast
reactions and many shots in
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
kwal...@peoplepc.com
Stan, I'm trying to wrap my head around 10 shots a minute for
an hour and a half.
That to me is a phenomenal shoot rate. In my Inside Passage
trip last year in 7 days I shot a little less than 1100
images. Out
On Oct 30, 2013, at 12:50 AM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote:
It's funny how every time I take a whole load of photos of something it's
always either the first or last one I end up choosing. I have a similar set
of another bird to go through so I'll see if I can break that rule.
My
On Oct 30, 2013, at 5:56 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:
...and throughout….
Hope it’s clear I intended “and thought”. You really have to be careful with
auto spellcheck. Otherwise it can embarrassing.
From: Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net
My understanding is that the secret to getting good shots is taking a lot of
them.
Really? Is that the way you think most people get 'good shots'?
To get good shots, one must take shots, but the secret isn't taking a
lot of them.
Tom C.
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From: Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net
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Cc:
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 2:56 AM
Subject: Re: PESO: White-Faced Heron
On Oct 30, 2013, at 12:50 AM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote:
It's funny how every time I take
Why do fashion photographers take so many shots then?
Alan
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Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 2:39 PM
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Subject: Re: PESO: White-Faced Heron
From: Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net
My understanding is that the secret to getting
what a beautiful bird - and nicely presented
ann
On 10/27/2013 23:30, David Mann wrote:
For those who didn't look through my gallery I thought this one was worth
presenting separately :)
http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/673/#peso
It's not often I get to exercise the 400mm but I'm glad I
What Ann said. Well done!
Paul
On Oct 30, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
what a beautiful bird - and nicely presented
ann
On 10/27/2013 23:30, David Mann wrote:
For those who didn't look through my gallery I thought this one was worth
presenting separately :)
On Oct 30, 2013, at 9:41 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
Getting out with a camera and giving yourself opportunities, will increase
your chances of getting a good one. Be choosy once you've decided what
good is, then learn the basics of composition, exposure and lighting.
Good
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Subject: Re: PESO: White-Faced Heron
From: Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net
My understanding is that the secret to getting good shots is taking a lot
of them.
Really? Is that the way you think most people get 'good shots'?
To get good shots, one must take shots, but the secret
Plus one. :-)
Godfrey
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On Oct 30, 2013, at 7:41 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
what a beautiful bird - and nicely presented
ann
On 10/27/2013 23:30, David Mann wrote:
For those who didn't look through my gallery I thought this one was worth
presenting separately :)
I agree to a certain extent. In some situations, preparing and shooting at the
right moment is most critical and taking numerous shots can be a detriment to
getting the one you want. In other situations, multiple exposures can be
helpful. For example, when shooting the great blue heron a
That's great, Dave!
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 11:30 PM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote:
For those who didn't look through my gallery I thought this one was worth
presenting separately :)
http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/673/#peso
It's not often I get to exercise the 400mm but I'm glad
30, 2013 2:39 PM
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Subject: Re: PESO: White-Faced Heron
From: Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net
My understanding is that the secret to getting good shots is taking a lot
of them.
Really? Is that the way you think most people get 'good shots'?
To get good shots, one
On 10/30/13 10:25 AM, Alan C wrote:
Why do fashion photographers take so many shots then?
Alan
There is a difference between working a subject, or having a range of
good shots in which you will find one that works best, and machine
gunning with the hope that one will be passable.
I
.
Jack
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From: Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: PESO: White-Faced Heron
On Oct 30, 2013, at 9:41 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
Getting out with a camera
Yeah, HCB said, Your first10,000 shots are your worst. This from a man who
rarely (according to Gassman, his longtime developer) took more than two shots
of a subject.
Here's my thought (as a complete and utter amateur):
The shoot lots thing is valid. As you said, Doug, if you're working the
On 10/30/2013 14:21, knarf wrote:
Yeah, HCB said, Your first10,000 shots are your worst. This from a man who
rarely (according to Gassman, his longtime developer) took more than two shots of a
subject.
Here's my thought (as a complete and utter amateur):
The shoot lots thing is valid. As
Here's a great article on motorsports photography describing a
situation in which machine-gunning is the only way to go. Scott
Jones is one of the top pros in the business (as you'll notice when
you see his photos) and in this blog entry he describes the making of
one particular shot.
From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com
Tom,
In the film days, each shot was $.25 and only pros took lots of shots.
Now the cost per shot is almost zero, and the tyros 'spray and pray'.
I enjoy taking more shots now, trying to work things out and saving
money on film.
I hope it's
On Oct 30, 2013, at 12:36 PM, Doug Brewer d...@dougbrewerphotography.com
wrote:
There is a difference between working a subject, or having a range of good
shots in which you will find one that works best, and machine gunning with
the hope that one will be passable.
Thanks, Doug. I hope
Making a lot of exposures is important to learning how to use your camera and
lenses. But *just* making a lot of exposures doesn't teach you much by itself,
it's only with the addition of and paying attention to what you're doing as
well as the results you get that you learn something.
Once
On Oct 30, 2013, at 3:01 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:
In my opinion taking a lot of shots does not improve one's photography
any more than throwing a 1000 darts at a dartboard blind folded
improves one's game….
I'm probably stating the obvious, but getting good shots is usually a
On Oct 30, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:
On my walk last week….
Last month.
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Decatur, GA USA
eew...@bellsouth.net
A man should be in the world as though he were not
Oh dear, what have I started :)
On Oct 31, 2013, at 7:21 am, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
The shoot lots thing is valid. As you said, Doug, if you're working the
subject, playing with angles, doing it with some awareness and mindfulness,
then it's worthwhile.
That's pretty much
It is unfortunate that this thread has devolved into the crapfest that
one can now (apparently) expect whenever Tom decides to post something
to this list. I almost forgot to look that image that David originally
posted:
http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/673/#peso
I was taken aback at it's
Yeah, you definitely are.
You don’t need to size up the situation? You don’t need to look through the
viewfinder? You don’t need to think about what you want to accomplish? You
don’t need to check your settings? You don’t need to think about what settings
are called for in the situation
Doug Brewer wrote:
On 10/30/13 10:25 AM, Alan C wrote:
Why do fashion photographers take so many shots then?
Alan
There is a difference between working a subject, or having a range of
good shots in which you will find one that works best, and machine
gunning with the hope that one will be
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 03:02:40PM -0500, Darren Addy wrote:
It is unfortunate that this thread has devolved into the crapfest that
one can now (apparently) expect whenever Tom decides to post something
to this list. I almost forgot to look that image that David originally
posted:
Darren wrote:
It is unfortunate that this thread has devolved into the crapfest that
one can now (apparently) expect whenever Tom decides to post something
to this list.
ad hominem
Tom C.
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On Oct 30, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
Doug Brewer wrote:
On 10/30/13 10:25 AM, Alan C wrote:
Why do fashion photographers take so many shots then?
Alan
There is a difference between working a subject, or having a range of
good shots in which you
I know I looked at it and I thought I complimented David on it.
It's a lovely photo. :-)
G
On Oct 30, 2013, at 1:02 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
I almost forgot to look that image that David originally
posted:
http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/673/#peso
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On Oct 30, 2013, at 4:18 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:
Yeah, you definitely are.
You don’t need to size up the situation? You don’t need to look through the
viewfinder? You don’t need to think about what you want to accomplish? You
don’t need to check your settings? You don’t need to
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:
How stupid do you think I am?
Well, you shoot Pentax, so I have a guess as to Tom's opinion.
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On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm probably stating the obvious, but getting good shots is usually a
matter of having a good eye for composition, paying attention to
technical details, shooting in the right light, using the right tool
for the job, knowing
On Oct 30, 2013, at 6:18 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote:
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:
How stupid do you think I am?
Well, you shoot Pentax, so I have a guess as to Tom's opinion.
That may be part of it. I suspect there’s something else
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
On Oct 30, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
Doug Brewer wrote:
On 10/30/13 10:25 AM, Alan C wrote:
Why do fashion photographers take so many shots then?
Alan
There is a
On Oct 30, 2013, at 3:20 PM, Eric Weir wrote:
On Oct 30, 2013, at 3:01 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:
In my opinion taking a lot of shots does not improve one's photography
any more than throwing a 1000 darts at a dartboard blind folded
improves one's game….
I'm probably stating
Paul Stenquist wrote:
On Oct 30, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
BTW: In the case of fashion photographers the answer to why they take
so many shots is often because that's what the editors demand. Some
will totally decompensate if they don't have thousands
I shoot a lot of shows along side other photographers, sometimes I
shoot more than them, sometimes less but generally the feedback I get
from artists is complementary with relation to my ability to capture
their most meaningful facial expressions. My images are sometimes
technically better than
On Oct 30, 2013, at 7:31 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote:
On Oct 30, 2013, at 3:20 PM, Eric Weir wrote:
On Oct 30, 2013, at 3:01 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:
In my opinion taking a lot of shots does not improve one's photography
any more than throwing a 1000 darts
On Oct 31, 2013, at 9:02 am, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
It is unfortunate that this thread has devolved into the crapfest that
one can now (apparently) expect whenever Tom decides to post something
to this list. I almost forgot to look that image that David originally
posted:
On Oct 29, 2013, at 12:10 AM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote:
This guy was fairly cooperative as he'd often pause to have a closer look at
something. I took quite a few photos, most of which just slightly missed
focus, and I think that was the last one I took.
Beautiful shot, David.
On Oct 30, 2013, at 7:24 am, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:
On Oct 29, 2013, at 12:10 AM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote:
This guy was fairly cooperative as he'd often pause to have a closer look at
something. I took quite a few photos, most of which just slightly missed
Gotta like that one. The lighting and exposure are excellent!
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David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote:
For those who didn't look through my gallery I thought this one was
worth presenting separately :)
http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/673/#peso
It's not
Spectacular! Beautiful bird.
Cheers,
frank
David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote:
For those who didn't look through my gallery I thought this one was
worth presenting separately :)
http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/673/#peso
It's not often I get to exercise the 400mm but I'm glad I brought it on
On Oct 28, 2013, at 5:14 pm, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:
http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/673/#peso
Wonderful shot of a beautiful bird.
That appears to be the same species that we see in Australia. One of my
favourite bird subjects - if only that they seem happy to
For those who didn't look through my gallery I thought this one was worth
presenting separately :)
http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/673/#peso
It's not often I get to exercise the 400mm but I'm glad I brought it on that
trip.
Cheers,
Dave
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Quoting David Mann dmann...@gmail.com:
For those who didn't look through my gallery I thought this one was
worth presenting separately :)
http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/673/#peso
It's not often I get to exercise the 400mm but I'm glad I brought it
on that trip.
Wonderful shot of a
Very nice! The color similarity of the BG rocks the bird is a nice add.
Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
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From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm
Subject: PESO - White-faced Heron
G'day all
I never get sick of seeing these birds. They're very
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Kenneth Waller
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From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm
Subject: PESO - White-faced Heron
G'day all
I never get sick of seeing these birds. They're very common but they
are such elegant
On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 06:13 -0500, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com
wrote:
Brian,
That is a wonderful heron photo.
It looks quite sharp and the colors match so well.
It's a very subtle color picture which makes it more artistic,
focusing us on composition, shapes, and textures.
Well done.
, 2009 6:42 PM
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Subject: Re: PESO - White-faced Heron
Jack, Ann, Bruce, Christine
Thanks for the comments. Bruce said The old adage holds true 'You can
never have too much focal length! True and I certainly could have used
more with this one. But I probably
: Friday, July 03, 2009 6:42 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: PESO - White-faced Heron
Jack, Ann, Bruce, Christine
Thanks for the comments. Bruce said The old adage holds true 'You can
never have too much focal length! True and I certainly could have used
more with this one
, 7/2/09, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:
From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm
Subject: PESO - White-faced Heron
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 4:54 AM
G'day all
I never get sick of seeing these birds. They're very
common
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Brian Walters
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 6:42 PM
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Subject: Re: PESO - White-faced Heron
Jack, Ann, Bruce, Christine
Thanks
G'day all
I never get sick of seeing these birds. They're very common but they
are such elegant and attractive creatures.
http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/147837/White-faced_Heron.html
This was taken hand held with the trusty FA 80-320 mm. It perhaps lacks
a little contrast between the bird
Monochrome look is just fine for me. Low lighting is a little stark, but the
heron's (?) shape plays well against the highly textured boulders.
Jack
--- On Thu, 7/2/09, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:
From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm
Subject: PESO - White-faced Heron
yummy--
I love herons, too... I can't remember seeing this guy ever, not even
in a zoo.
ann
Brian Walters wrote:
G'day all
I never get sick of seeing these birds. They're very common but they
are such elegant and attractive creatures.
You've done a nice job with this one. The heron stands out
sufficiently from the background. The old adage holds true 'You can
never have too much focal length!'
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Best regards,
Bruce
Thursday, July 2, 2009, 4:54:35 AM, you wrote:
BW G'day all
BW I never get sick of seeing these birds.
02, 2009 6:54 AM
Subject: PESO - White-faced Heron
G'day all
I never get sick of seeing these birds. They're very common but they
are such elegant and attractive creatures.
http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/147837/White-faced_Heron.html
This was taken hand held with the trusty FA 80-320 mm
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