Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-26 Thread Rob Studdert
On 25 September 2012 04:06, Darren Addy wrote: > Regarding the $2000 Pentax-A* 135mm f1.8. Some say it is one of the 4 > or 5 best lenses Pentax has ever made, but I would love to see a > comparison between it and the K 135mm f2.5 (or the same optics in the > S-M-C Takumar 135mm f2.5 (version 2).

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-26 Thread Boris Liberman
I totally concur here. I'm in the middle of Galia's and mine trip to USA and even in Chicago I could get good pictures with 33mm lens of my Ricoh. The 50 mm equivalent focal length is extremely versatile. On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Doug Brewer wrote: > is on the KEH website right now: > >

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-26 Thread Larry Colen
On Sep 24, 2012, at 4:43 PM, Darren Addy wrote: > Well, just to follow-up on my earlier stuff I was making a big error. > Exmor does not equal Exmor-R. The APS-C sensor is the plain vanilla > Exmor (not the backlit Exmor-R technology). > > This page explains the improvements that came with the p

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Joseph McAllister
I diagnosed myself with having an astigmatism while in the Navy in 1965, off the coast of Vietnam. I noticed a difference in the lines of a bar-code when I was sitting up or lying down at about 15 feet from the cardboard box. It has only gotten marginally worse 47 years later. Maybe we should a

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Mark Roberts
Mark Roberts wrote: >It's probably a mistranslation, then. Astigmatism is a lens aberration >in which light rays are bent differently along the horizontal axis >with respect to the vertical. Or vice-versa ;-) To clarify: Imagine a "+" sign. With a lens exhibiting significant astigmatism you could

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Darren Addy
Well, just to follow-up on my earlier stuff I was making a big error. Exmor does not equal Exmor-R. The APS-C sensor is the plain vanilla Exmor (not the backlit Exmor-R technology). This page explains the improvements that came with the plain vanilla Exmor: http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/technology/

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Mark Roberts
Bruce Walker wrote: >On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Mark Roberts > wrote: >> Bruce Walker wrote: >> >>>Pentax literature points out how the final element of DA glass is >>>configured to direct the photons at right angles to the sensor to >>>compensate for the fact that the sensor is most sensit

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Darren Addy
Bad form to reply to oneself, but since I'm mostly talking to myself here I pass this along just to be complete. : ) I found the following illustration of how sensors were always discussed pre-Exmor. A lot of people still discuss them this way, throwing them all in the same "bucket". http://www.ant

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Bruce Walker
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Bruce Walker wrote: > >>Pentax literature points out how the final element of DA glass is >>configured to direct the photons at right angles to the sensor to >>compensate for the fact that the sensor is most sensitive to >>perpendicular light

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread John Sessoms
From: Darren Addy On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 12:10 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Naa, that's nothing, KEH also has the /truely/ legendary A* 135mm f1.8 in stock at this very moment. Look fast it won't last. Almost $2K in bargain condition! http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Fixed-Focal-Le

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Toralf Lund
On 9/24/12 17:59, Darren Addy wrote: This lens (FA 35mm f2) is a bit less sought after since the introduction of the Pentax DA 35mm f/2.4 AL which, by all reports, gives close to the same sort of performance for about half of the price. I think that has reduced demand and prices on what this len

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Darren Addy
re: improved off-axis light performance for Exmor sensor design After writing my last post about asking Falk Lumo about this, I decided to do it so sent him a PM through Pentax Forums. I'll pass along any reply he may have time to give if and when it happens. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread John Sessoms
It's still there at 3:30. Being broke suX. They also have "300 F2.8 SMC FA ED INTERNAL FOCUS (43 DROP-IN) WITH FILTERS WITH HOOD, CAPS, CASE, 35MM SLR AUTO FOCUS TELEPHOTO LENS" http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Autofocus-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-AP06999107182R?r=FE I wonder if maybe so

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Darren Addy
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > Pentax literature points out how the final element of DA glass is > configured to direct the photons at right angles to the sensor to > compensate for the fact that the sensor is most sensitive to > perpendicular light. Film did not have this

RE: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread J.C. O'Connell
entax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL... Bruce Walker wrote: >Pentax literature points out how the final element of DA glass is >configured to direct the photons at right angles to the sensor to >compensate for the fact that the sensor is most sensitive to >pe

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Mark Roberts
Bruce Walker wrote: >Pentax literature points out how the final element of DA glass is >configured to direct the photons at right angles to the sensor to >compensate for the fact that the sensor is most sensitive to >perpendicular light. Film did not have this issue, hence FA glass (and >before)

RE: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread J.C. O'Connell
Paul Stenquist Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 2:59 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL... ROFLMAO. FA lenses don't have the edge sharpness that the DA lenses deliver. They're not engineered to work with a sensor, and it's obvious in the results.

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread P. J. Alling
On 9/24/2012 2:47 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 2:37 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: On 9/24/2012 1:54 PM, Darren Addy wrote: On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 12:10 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Naa, that's nothing, KEH also has the /truely/ legendary A* 135mm f1.8 in stock at this very moment. L

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
ROFLMAO… FA lenses don't have the edge sharpness that the DA lenses deliver. They're not engineered to work with a sensor, and it's obvious in the results. P On Sep 24, 2012, at 12:51 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > LOL ... > > The FA35/2 AL was my most used lens until I obtained te FA43/1.9 >

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread P. J. Alling
The SMC P 135mm f2.5 has been called the poor mans A*135. I have never even seen a A*135 but I have one each of the 135mm f2.5 in K and M42 (SMCT), and I can attest to their excellent imaging qualities both on film and digital. I was able to get them quite inexpensively mostly because 135mm l

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Bruce Walker
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 2:37 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > On 9/24/2012 1:54 PM, Darren Addy wrote: >> >> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 12:10 PM, P. J. Alling >> wrote: >>> >>> Naa, that's nothing, KEH also has the /truely/ legendary A* 135mm f1.8 in >>> stock at this very moment. Look fast it won't last.

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
t; Roberts > Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 1:54 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL... > > Paul Stenquist wrote: > >> I have the FA 35/2 but almost never use it. The DA* 16-50 is >> sharper and more contrasty at every sto

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Sep 24, 2012, at 1:54 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Paul Stenquist wrote: > >> I have the FA 35/2 but almost never use it. The DA* 16-50 is >> sharper and more contrasty at every stop IMO, and it's hard >> to dispute the convenience of a zoom, particularly when >> working quickly and efficie

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread P. J. Alling
On 9/24/2012 1:54 PM, Darren Addy wrote: On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 12:10 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Naa, that's nothing, KEH also has the /truely/ legendary A* 135mm f1.8 in stock at this very moment. Look fast it won't last. Almost $2K in bargain condition! http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Mark Roberts
Darren Addy wrote: >On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 12:10 PM, P. J. Alling > wrote: >> Naa, that's nothing, KEH also has the /truely/ legendary A* 135mm f1.8 in >> stock at this very moment. Look fast it won't last. >> >> Almost $2K in bargain condition! >> >> http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focu

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Darren Addy
Regarding the $2000 Pentax-A* 135mm f1.8. Some say it is one of the 4 or 5 best lenses Pentax has ever made, but I would love to see a comparison between it and the K 135mm f2.5 (or the same optics in the S-M-C Takumar 135mm f2.5 (version 2). *That* is a stellar lens (albeit without "A" functionali

RE: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread J.C. O'Connell
bject: Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL... Paul Stenquist wrote: >I have the FA 35/2 but almost never use it. The DA* 16-50 is >sharper and more contrasty at every stop IMO, and it's hard >to dispute the convenience of a zoom, particularly when >working quickly and efficiently i

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist wrote: >I have the FA 35/2 but almost never use it. The DA* 16-50 is >sharper and more contrasty at every stop IMO, and it's hard >to dispute the convenience of a zoom, particularly when >working quickly and efficiently is important. Bit of a size/weight disadvantage to the zoo

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Darren Addy
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 12:10 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > Naa, that's nothing, KEH also has the /truely/ legendary A* 135mm f1.8 in > stock at this very moment. Look fast it won't last. > > Almost $2K in bargain condition! > > http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1

RE: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread J.C. O'Connell
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 12:25 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL... I have the FA 35/2 but almost never use it. The DA* 16-50 is sharper and more contrasty at every stop IMO, and it's hard to dispute the convenience of a zoom, particularly wh

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread P. J. Alling
Naa, that's nothing, KEH also has the /truely/ legendary A* 135mm f1.8 in stock at this very moment. Look fast it won't last. Almost $2K in bargain condition! http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK06009016184N?r=FE On 9/24/2012 11:20 AM, Doug Brewer wr

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
LOL ... The FA35/2 AL was my most used lens until I obtained te FA43/1.9 Limited. I much preferred it to the FA31/1.8 Limited too. :-) Never found it to be less sharp than any zoom, the only zoom I used that was on par (but two stops slower) was the FA20-35/4 AL. G On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 9:25

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread John Sessoms
KEH seems to have them quite frequently. From: Steven Desjardins Wow, there's actually 2 of them, the other a bit o more with caps and hood. I always wanted this lens but was always spending my money something else. On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Doug Brewer wrote: is on the KEH website

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
I have the FA 35/2 but almost never use it. The DA* 16-50 is sharper and more contrasty at every stop IMO, and it's hard to dispute the convenience of a zoom, particularly when working quickly and efficiently is important. Paul > This lens (FA 35mm f2) is a bit less sought after since the > int

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Darren Addy
This lens (FA 35mm f2) is a bit less sought after since the introduction of the Pentax DA 35mm f/2.4 AL which, by all reports, gives close to the same sort of performance for about half of the price. I think that has reduced demand and prices on what this lens was fetching prior that lens being in

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Steven Desjardins
Wow, there's actually 2 of them, the other a bit o more with caps and hood. I always wanted this lens but was always spending my money something else. On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Doug Brewer wrote: > is on the KEH website right now: > > http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Autofocus-Fixed-Foca

a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Doug Brewer
is on the KEH website right now: http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Autofocus-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-AP06999048589N?r=FE It's my most used lens. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the li