Re: functional difference pz-1p/pz-1?

2003-02-16 Thread Rfsindg
Sorry you are annoyed. The PZ-1 manual is ambiguous about spot metering. It doesn't tell you clearly what is going on. Page 41 states that Matrix metering doesn't work. (When a lens with no lens information contacts (lenses made before M lenses) is used, the center-weighted metering mode is

Re: functional difference pz-1p/pz-1?

2003-02-16 Thread Rfsindg
David, So you can use Matrix metering with M lenses? My manual says For lenses made earlier than Pentax-M (lenses without lens information contacts), center weighted metering system is used instead of multi(8)-pattern metering. However the spot metering system can be used. This is non-sense

Re: functional difference pz-1p/pz-1?

2003-02-16 Thread David S.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David, So you can use Matrix metering with M lenses? My manual says For lenses made earlier than Pentax-M (lenses without lens information contacts), center weighted metering system is used instead of multi(8)-pattern metering. However the spot metering system

Re: functional difference pz-1p/pz-1?

2003-02-16 Thread Rfsindg
David, To clarify, you tried the experiment below. You mounted a K or M lens and checked metering without and with Spot? You got significantly different reading using Spot? Can you tell us what lens you used? My PZ-1 has never worked this way since purchased new. I was an early

Re: functional difference pz-1p/pz-1?

2003-02-16 Thread ernreed2
Bob posted: Sorry you are annoyed. The PZ-1 manual is ambiguous about spot metering. It doesn't tell you clearly what is going on. Well at least I now know. And I also know that the ZX-5n WILL spot-meter with the M lenses.

Re: functional difference pz-1p/pz-1?

2003-02-16 Thread Shaun Canning
The manual tells you which functions will work with the relevant lens type. It does not mention anything about the contacts. The lack of relevant contacts is why spot metering doesnt work with k or m lenses. Cheers Shaun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shaun wrote: The manual tells you that. Spot

Re: functional difference pz-1p/pz-1?

2003-02-16 Thread David S.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David, To clarify, you tried the experiment below. You mounted a K or M lens and checked metering without and with Spot? You got significantly different reading using Spot? Can you tell us what lens you used? My PZ-1 has never worked this way since

Re: functional difference pz-1p/pz-1?

2003-02-16 Thread David Dixon
I'm a different David, but I'll stick my oar in. I've tried your expt below, with a Z-1, and a SMC-M 200/4. I can definitely get spot metering - a four-fold difference in exposure changing between centre-weighted and spot. However, if I change Pentax function 1, so that activating the spot

Re: functional difference pz-1p/pz-1?

2003-02-16 Thread Rfsindg
Dave Dixon, you got me thinking and looking. Now I am confused. Here's what I know about my PZ-1. Set the PF (personal function) at CE for center weighted metering. Put the K24/2.8 on the PZ-1 and open it to f2.8. Focus on that lamp across the room. The camera reads 1/60th. Press the SPOT button,

Re: functional difference pz-1p/pz-1?

2003-02-16 Thread Rfsindg
David, Thanks for describing the steps you took. My PZ-1 does not work the same. I put a #2 K extension tube on it with a FA28-70. I got the same exposure reading when I used the SPOT button or not. The only way I could get different exposure readings was to change the PF for spot or center

Re: functional difference pz-1p/pz-1?

2003-02-15 Thread Rfsindg
Rob, Motor drive on PZ-1 is slower, 2 fps vs 3+ for the PZ-1p. No annoying Panorama frame lines in PZ-1 viewfinder, no Panorama at all ! Some functions get buried in the PF options on the PZ-1. It seems like they brought some out of hiding on the PZ-1p. Spot metering with old M K lenses works on

Re: functional difference pz-1p/pz-1?

2003-02-15 Thread Frits Wüthrich
And 35mm coverage of the flash on the PZ-1, the PZ-1p has 28mm coverage. The exposure correction for flash is way nicher/easier on the 1p. (I have the PZ-1, this is really the feature I mess most on my camera versus the PZ-1p) The PZ-1 has an interval setting, you can shoot a picure every xxx

Re: functional difference pz-1p/pz-1?

2003-02-15 Thread Rfsindg
Joe, Actually, I think the winder speed is closer to 2.5 fps for the PZ-1. It just isn't particularly faster than a winder. The PZ-1p is closer to 4 fps (very similar to the 3.5 fps of a Motor Drive A for a Super Program). It is not as fast as the 4+ of an LX Motor Drive. I think Boz

Re: functional difference pz-1p/pz-1?

2003-02-15 Thread Rfsindg
Can't say what the manual says for the PZ-1, but if you have the camera, try it. You will not get spot metering with any of the K or M lenses. That's how mine has worked since the first day (although it took me a long time to know this!). Try it in a dim room with a table lamp and a wide

Re: functional difference pz-1p/pz-1?

2003-02-15 Thread Frits Wüthrich
I just checked the PZ-1 manual, which I have on my website: http://www.wuthrich.cc under photolinks. It says for the PZ-1 : Approx. 3 frames/sec (continues mode). (page 113). As I don't shoot in continues mode, this is not a disadvantage for me versus the PZ-1p at all, for others it might be,

Re: functional difference pz-1p/pz-1?

2003-02-15 Thread David S.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't say what the manual says for the PZ-1, but if you have the camera, try it. You will not get spot metering with any of the K or M lenses. That's how mine has worked since the first day (although it took me a long time to know this!). Try it in a dim room

Re: functional difference pz-1p/pz-1?

2003-02-15 Thread Shaun Canning
The manual tells you that. Spot only works with lenses that have the appropriate electrical contacts. K and M lenses can be made to perform as an A or FA for metering purposes - I think Mark Roberts has the info on his web site? Cheers Shaun David S. wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't

Re: functional difference pz-1p/pz-1?

2003-02-13 Thread RobFilms
pdmlers: what is the functional difference between the pz-1 and the updated pz-1p? i ask because i'm thinking of acquiring a pz-1 as a backup body to my glorious pz-1p any thoughts would be welcome be well rob

Re: functional difference pz-1p/pz-1?

2003-02-13 Thread Stan Halpin
See http://kmp.BDimitrov.de/ Stan on 2/13/03 4:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pdmlers: what is the functional difference between the pz-1 and the updated pz-1p? i ask because i'm thinking of acquiring a pz-1 as a backup body to my glorious pz-1p any thoughts