Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results

2008-03-08 Thread David J Brooks
oks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results > > > > So my Pef's are compressed and my Nef's are not. > > > > My head hurts. > > > > LOL > > > > Dave > > > > On Thu, Mar 6

Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results

2008-03-08 Thread Ken Waller
> My head hurts. Maybe its compressed? Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results > So my Pef's are compressed and my Nef's are

Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results

2008-03-08 Thread David J Brooks
So my Pef's are compressed and my Nef's are not. My head hurts. LOL Dave On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 9:53 AM, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 11:47 PM, Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't know whether the DNGs in the K20D are > > compressed or not.

Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results

2008-03-06 Thread mike wilson
> > From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2008/03/05 Wed PM 11:58:22 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: more K20D autofocus adjustment results > > So far I've adjusted the FA 50/1.4, the FA 35/2 and now the DA > 16-45/4. The 50/1.4 cam

Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results

2008-03-06 Thread Bob Sullivan
Dave, My DNG's are 23 meg, but the PEF's are 12-16 meg. And would you believe Picasa can decode them into images. (Hard to put much over on those Google folks.) Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 6:14 AM, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Paul Stenquis

Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results

2008-03-06 Thread David Savage
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 11:47 PM, Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know whether the DNGs in the K20D are > compressed or not. It doesn't look like it. And if the .pefs are, there isn't much compression going on. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http:

Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results

2008-03-06 Thread Rick Womer
The PEF files on the K10D are compressed, and the size varies with the amount of detail in the image. The K10D DNG files are not compressed, and are consistent in size. I don't know whether the DNGs in the K20D are compressed or not. Rick --- Doug Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paul Ste

Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results

2008-03-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" Subject: Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results > K20D high ISO a problem? LOL. You apparently haven't seen any of the > recently posted pics. And there are thousands of very satisfied K10D > users, including mys

Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results

2008-03-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
ould rather > buy a good old used and proven model rather than new goods that > keep the > company and paychecks for Pentax going :) > > later > Owen > > > - Original Message - > From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Pentax-D

Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results

2008-03-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
Okay, granted. If the camera is way off then overall focus correction is an advantage. But I consider that a quality control problem that users shouldn't have to deal with. Being able to set lens specific focus, on the other hand, is a valuable end-user feature. Paul On Mar 5, 2008, at 10:09

Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results

2008-03-06 Thread David Savage
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If a K10D file is 16 megabytes, and a K20D file is 23 megabytes, that > corresponds roughly to the difference between 10 megapixels and 14.6 > megapixels. Right? > Paul But consider the difference n .pef file sizes. A

Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results

2008-03-06 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I disagree, Paul. I was having a significant > backfocusing problem on my K10D with all my lenses, > which I corrected using the "hacked" firmware > available on the web. Now things focus =much= better, > though there is

Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results

2008-03-06 Thread Cotty
On 5/3/08, Owen LaPrath, discombobulated, unleashed: >I am kicking myself for ever having wanted a K10. >Autofocus was a dissapoinmtent to say the least - no faster than the K100, >and actually less reliable! >After seeing a few K20d shots from Dubai, my K100d even compares favorably >for high I

Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results

2008-03-05 Thread Doug Franklin
Paul Stenquist wrote: > If a K10D file is 16 megabytes, and a K20D file is 23 megabytes, that > corresponds roughly to the difference between 10 megapixels and 14.6 > megapixels. Right? Yeah, but the K10D file had a small JPG in it, too, which made those file sizes variable as well. If they

Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results

2008-03-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Rick Womer" Subject: Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results >I disagree, Paul. I was having a significant > backfocusing problem on my K10D with all my lenses, > which I corrected using the "hacked" firmware > availab

Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results

2008-03-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Owen LaPrath" Subject: Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results > > Frankly, with the K20d being the 9th Pentax dSLR model, autofocus, > underexposure issues (the Dubai shots are UGLY), high ISO noise, and high > ISO banding ought no

Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results

2008-03-05 Thread Joseph Tainter
My understanding is that when Pentax added remote flash support to the K10D firmware (version 1.2), they had to take out the focus adjustment utility because of limited camera memory. They substituted software running on a PC to do the job; it would be nice if that were generally available.

Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results

2008-03-05 Thread Owen LaPrath
List" Sent: Wednesday, 05 March, 2008 18:11 Subject: Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results If you're noticing it, it's off by a bunch. I don't know why Pentax didn't adjust it properly. The adjustments I'm talking about here are really fine tuning. I did notice

Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results

2008-03-05 Thread Rick Womer
I disagree, Paul. I was having a significant backfocusing problem on my K10D with all my lenses, which I corrected using the "hacked" firmware available on the web. Now things focus =much= better, though there is still a tiny variation between lenses. I could not have done my recent macro shooti

Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results

2008-03-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
I think focus adjustment is somewhat useless if it's not lens specific like that of the K20D. Paul On Mar 5, 2008, at 9:15 PM, Rick Womer wrote: > My understanding is that when Pentax added remote > flash support to the K10D firmware (version 1.2), they > had to take out the focus adjustment uti

Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results

2008-03-05 Thread Rick Womer
My understanding is that when Pentax added remote flash support to the K10D firmware (version 1.2), they had to take out the focus adjustment utility because of limited camera memory. They substituted software running on a PC to do the job; it would be nice if that were generally available. Rick

Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results

2008-03-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
If a K10D file is 16 megabytes, and a K20D file is 23 megabytes, that corresponds roughly to the difference between 10 megapixels and 14.6 megapixels. Right? Paul On Mar 5, 2008, at 8:31 PM, Doug Franklin wrote: > William Robb wrote: > >> The DNG files are massive, varying from just under to j

Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results

2008-03-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
The only fly in the ointment is that you really can't tell if a camera/lens combination is spot-on until you compare the results to other levels of adjustment. I suspect that it's more than a firmware thing, but I could be wrong. Paul On Mar 5, 2008, at 8:04 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: > On

Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results

2008-03-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
If you're noticing it, it's off by a bunch. I don't know why Pentax didn't adjust it properly. The adjustments I'm talking about here are really fine tuning. I did notice the front focus on the FA 50/1.4, which was off by -4 on the K20 scale. The other lenses seemed fine before checking. Pa

Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results

2008-03-05 Thread Doug Franklin
William Robb wrote: > The DNG files are massive, varying from just under to just over 23mb each, > which is 7 mb larger > than the K10 DNG files. I have no idea why there is a size variance though my > K10 DNG files vary > somewhat as well. Probably due to the embedded JPG version of the imag

Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results

2008-03-05 Thread Charles Robinson
On Mar 5, 2008, at 18:30, George Sinos wrote: > Paul - > > Thanks for passing along the info. I know at least one other camera > manufacturer is doing the same thing. It won't be long before it's a > must have feature. > One wonders if there is an ice-cube's chance in hell of the K10D ever ga

Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results

2008-03-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" Subject: more K20D autofocus adjustment results > So far I've adjusted the FA 50/1.4, the FA 35/2 and now the DA > 16-45/4. The 50/1.4 came in at -4. I retested to make sure. Same > result: -4. The FA 35/2 came in at

Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results

2008-03-05 Thread David J Brooks
Hum. My K10D still does what i sent it in for, my Nikons are fine, what gives. Dave On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 6:58 PM, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So far I've adjusted the FA 50/1.4, the FA 35/2 and now the DA > 16-45/4. The 50/1.4 came in at -4. I retested to make sure. Same > re

Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results

2008-03-05 Thread George Sinos
Paul - Thanks for passing along the info. I know at least one other camera manufacturer is doing the same thing. It won't be long before it's a must have feature. I find it interesting that just a few years ago it would be unlikely that we would have found these differences and even less likely

more K20D autofocus adjustment results

2008-03-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
So far I've adjusted the FA 50/1.4, the FA 35/2 and now the DA 16-45/4. The 50/1.4 came in at -4. I retested to make sure. Same result: -4. The FA 35/2 came in at +2. Tonight I did the DA 16-45/4, and as I suspected, it was closer to dead on at just +1 adjustment. I simply do a series of sho