[PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:7387] Re: Natural Propositions

2014-11-07 Thread Howard Pattee
At 09:08 AM 11/7/2014, Frederik Stjernfelt wrote: I am not sure. Much of the yet unresolved discussion of QM have to do with deciding which ontological commitments come with the Schrödinger equation. As far as I have understood, there is no scientific agreement about this. . . HP: That is t

[PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:7388] Natural Propositions, Chapter 5 : Ventral-Dorsal split

2014-11-07 Thread Gary Richmond
Mara, lists, Thanks for this good summary of Hurford's hypothesis and Frederik's use of it to further his dicisign argument. Still struggling to understand the hypothesis itself, which has some problems and clearly needs some modification if it is to be of much use in biosemiotics, Frederik offeri

[PEIRCE-L] Natural Propositions, Chapter 5 : Ventral-Dorsal split

2014-11-07 Thread Mara Woods
Hello everyone, Now we move on to the heart of Chapter 5: that the ventral-dorsal split of the visual perception system corresponds to the double function of the Dicisign. Recall that, according to Stjernfelt, this similarity between the syntax of the Dicisign and that of the functions of these tw

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:7373] Natural Propositions

2014-11-07 Thread Frederik Stjernfelt
Dear Howard, lists - I am not sure. Much of the yet unresolved discussion of QM have to do with deciding which ontological commitments come with the Schrödinger equation. As far as I have understood, there is no scientific agreement about this (unlike basic knowledge about iron and cakes etc.).

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:7373] Natural Propositions

2014-11-07 Thread Howard Pattee
At 03:51 PM 11/6/2014, Frederik wrote: Dear Howard, list This is where our ways part. HP: I'm not sure why. My 25 words was just trying to sound like a nominalist. It is not my view, as the other 700 words tried to explain. Suppose I agree to be a realist about iron, baking pies, round ob

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:7379] Re: Natural Propositions and continuity

2014-11-07 Thread Sungchul Ji
(For undistorted Figure 1, see the attached.) Gary R wrote: "So, in a sense, can-be's (1ns) may become would-be's (110714-1) (3ns) if the conditions were to come into existence, and in that case, if they do they are realized in actual lawful existence, in the lawfulness which, seemingly, contra