[PEIRCE-L] Objective Idealism

2015-03-26 Thread Jon Awbrey
Jeremy, List, A few spare moments this morning, so I'll just try to give my personal take on Peirce's objective idealism. I remember writing an explication of this this some time back -- searching tells me it was probably this gloss on the canonical paragraph from Peirce that I added to the

[PEIRCE-L] Re: abduction in the brain

2015-03-26 Thread Jon Awbrey
Danko, List, On mobile and not able to read your paper right now, so maybe you already mentioned this, but I recall W.S. McCulloch wrote something about “the reticular formation that marshals our abductions” and he was quite up on Peirce early on. Regards, Jon http://inquiryintoinquiry.com

[PEIRCE-L] Bayes and abduction

2015-03-26 Thread Danko Nikolic
Dear, There was one more question that bugged me while writing the paper on practopoiesis: There has been a lot of work on Bayesian inference in the brain. So, my fear was that people who worked on Bayesian aspects of brain computation would argue that all the issues regarding logical

[PEIRCE-L] Re: abduction in the brain

2015-03-26 Thread Jon Awbrey
That's ''Embodiments of Mind''. Jon http://inquiryintoinquiry.com On Mar 26, 2015, at 2:52 PM, Jon Awbrey jawb...@att.net wrote: Danko, Check the papers collected in his ''Embodied Mind''. That's probably where I read it. Jon http://inquiryintoinquiry.com On Mar 26, 2015, at

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Bayes and abduction

2015-03-26 Thread Danko Nikolic
Oh! Thank you. I just read it and liked it. Basically, the field did not settle down on a single answer to the question. There are multiple ways how this relation could be conceived. I liked very much the concluding paragraph leaving open even the possibility that the two are covering

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Bayes and abduction

2015-03-26 Thread Benjamin Udell
You're welcome, Danko. I confess that I know little about cybernetics, Bayesian probability, etc. - I don't have strong opinions about them. If I were to pick something Bayesian in spirit that might help with abductive inference, it would be some notion of subjective priors about feasibility

[PEIRCE-L] Re: Bayes and abduction

2015-03-26 Thread Jon Awbrey
I learned Bayesian methods in my statistics courses and was taught to be skeptical of the magical powers that some attributed to them. Some of my professors knew about Peirce's distinction between abduction and induction and some did not, but either way they knew you can't get inductive

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: abduction in the brain

2015-03-26 Thread Danko Nikolic
Thank you for that. Danko On 26/03/15 20:03, Jeffrey Brian Downard wrote: Hello, Or see: http://vordenker.de/ggphilosophy/mcculloch_whats-in-the-brain.pdf --Jeff Jeff Downard Associate Professor Department of Philosophy NAU (o) 523-8354 From: Jon

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Bayes and abduction

2015-03-26 Thread John Collier
Ironic, yes, and it shows how dependent Bayes methods are on priors. Pick bad priors (and that can even involve assigning equal probability to all unknowns) and with a bit of bad luck you can end up in a self-confirming loop. But usually it works. My Bayesian spam detector (actually

[PEIRCE-L] abduction in the brain

2015-03-26 Thread Danko Nikolic
Dear members of Peirce list, I would like to bring to your attention the upcoming theoretical paper in Journal of Theoretical Biology entitled Practopoiesis: Or how life fosters a mind. The paper proposes neurophysiological/cybernetic account of abductive reasoning, as introduced by Peirce.