Gary f, list,
All of this is *very* interesting both from the standpoints of
phenomenology and of semiotics (and, it would seem, how they necessarily
involve each other). I don't know whether I have anything much to add to
what you've already written, but first let me see if I fully grasp your
John, Kirsti, List ...
The relationship between being and representing a universe of discourse
arose in a very interesting way in discussions on the Laws Of Form List,
stemming from a question about boundaries of regions in Venn diagrams.
Cf: Differential Logic • Comment 2