Aw: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Recommendation: In email notes, avoid the word 'you'

2018-08-04 Thread Helmut Raulien
    Supp: Sorry, wrong term: Modifies, not moderates, feeling modifies reason. Dear Jerry, List, I think reason/feeling, Yin/Yang, Kantian/Peircean "A-Priori" should not be assigned to men/women, and also not be seen as contradictory (not that I think that you do so, I am just saying). I

Aw: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Recommendation: In email notes, avoid the word 'you'

2018-08-04 Thread Helmut Raulien
Dear Jerry, List, I think reason/feeling, Yin/Yang, Kantian/Peircean "A-Priori" should not be assigned to men/women, and also not be seen as contradictory (not that I think that you do so, I am just saying). I think, feeling moderates reason, and internalized reason shows up as feeling. I agree

[PEIRCE-L] Open Questions on the Meaning of CP 5.376?

2018-08-04 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
List, Gene, Gary R. Gary F, Stephen: > Gene quoted Peirce: > "But the mere putting of a proposition into the interrogative form does not > stimulate the mind to any struggle after belief. There must be a real and > living doubt, and without this all discussion [is?] idle" (CP 5.376). > Gary

Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Recommendation: In email notes, avoid the word 'you'

2018-08-04 Thread Jerry Rhee
Dear Helmut, list, *There is a crying scandal in philosophy. * *This is the paradox of an extreme diversity of opinion in regard to the immediately given as such (that is to say, apparently, in regard to the obvious in its very obviousness).* The experiment therefore ought to be made,

Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Recommendation: In email notes, avoid the word 'you'

2018-08-04 Thread Helmut Raulien
Jerry, List, I agree that it is puzzling. 1. The nature of the connection I see as the connection between interpreting systems and signs. 2. Ecosystems and niches have already complex relations, while each (simple life form) individual is only interested in its own advantage. It is like Adam

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Sham Reasoning - Is Ethics Possible?

2018-08-04 Thread Stephen Curtiss Rose
I have generally assumed that decency is verifiable by looking at a decent action or statement and having some basis for judging. I wish science was simply assumed as a reasonable approach to evaluating all behavior. Ethics and aesthetics are part of science I assume.

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Sham Reasoning - Is Ethics Possible?

2018-08-04 Thread Edwina Taborsky
BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; }Stephen, list Exactly. I note also in 1.55, "all probable reasoning is despised. ...There is no room for doubt, which can only paralyze action. But the scientific spirit requires a man to be at all times ready

[PEIRCE-L] Sham Reasoning - Is Ethics Possible?

2018-08-04 Thread Stephen Curtiss Rose
Peirce: CP 1.57 Cross-Ref:†† 57. When men begin to rationalize about their conduct, the first effect is to deliver them over to their passions and produce the most frightful demoralization, especially in sexual matters. Thus, among the Greeks, it brought about pæderasty and a

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Testing the filter

2018-08-04 Thread Edwina Taborsky
BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; }John, list Yes, that's the right suggestion! Instead of personally 'not being offended' - and after all, someone can say they are not offended but can act very offended..but the thing to do is: not give offense.