Re: [PEIRCE-L] André De Tienne: Slow Read slide 14

Jon AS, Peirce's definition of mathematics is consistent with the mainstream of mathematical thinking since antiquity.  There are many versions of the philosophy of mathematics, but Peirce's version is still at the forefront of modern research. JAS> anyone is free to disagree with Peirce's defi

[PEIRCE-L] Announcement: James Liszka to give webinar on Peirce's Ethics 7/18

FYI: James Liszka is giving a seminar this Sunday, July 18th, on the Development of Peirce's Normative Science of Ethics GR To interested Peirce scholars: I'm giving a webinar on the Development of Peirce's Normative Science of Ethics, as part of the Smart Semiotics Series. The presentation is ba

Re: [PEIRCE-L] André De Tienne: Slow Read slide 14

Robert, List: RM: I have just answered Gary F ... if you take up his criticism without making sure of its validity, you are objectively in the same case as him ... I agree with Gary F.'s "criticism," but there is nothing "malicious" about simply pointing out that the statement, "The objects of P

Re: [PEIRCE-L] André De Tienne: Slow Read slide 14

Robert, Jon, Gary f, Little of what you write below, Robert, pertains to phenomenology, but rather to pure (vs applied) mathematics or to logic as semeiotic. For example, Kenneth Ketner in two of the appendices of 'A Thief of Peirce' suggests that the *reduction thesis* has its valental roots in m

Aw: [PEIRCE-L] André De Tienne: Slow Read slide 14

Jon. List   For the thing, why statistics is not pure mathemathics, I can only imagine, that its subject randomness is something external to mathematics. Is it? Randomness a phenomenon from other sciences like phaneroscopy? I cannot totally disagree with that view.   Being valid for an "ideal s

Re: [PEIRCE-L] André De Tienne: Slow Read slide 14

Helmut, List: Again, anyone is free to disagree with Peirce's definition of mathematics. However, the occurrence of surprises is perfectly consistent with its method being strictly deductive and its subject matter being strictly hypothetical, especially given the distinction that he draws between

Re: [PEIRCE-L] André De Tienne: Slow Read slide 14

Helmuth, List, In algebra, the invention of complex numbers by Gerolamo Cardano is a wonderful example that is not new! (1545 !) And so many others ...For example, Peirce was interested in quaternions CP 4.138 §10. THE ALGEBRA OF REAL QUATERNIONS; CP

Aw: [PEIRCE-L] André De Tienne: Slow Read slide 14

List,   Donot underestimate the power of words. I think it is very dangerous to ideationally seperate the world in two. Martin Luther did that, and the result were first ca. 75000 peasants slaughtered, and later a 30 years long war. An (epistemic) gap is not an impermeable border, and I think it

Re: [PEIRCE-L] André De Tienne: Slow Read slide 14

Jon Alan, List, I have just answered Gary F ... if you take up his criticism without making sure of its validity, you are objectively in the same case as him ... For the second part, it seems to me that you are stating something very close to what I am proposing when you write "both by manifesting

Aw: [PEIRCE-L] André De Tienne: Slow Read slide 14

Jon, List   I disagree with this "strictly hypothetical". In mathemathics, mostly there are hypotheses at the beginning, presumtions, which then are deductively proven or refuted by disproof or failed to prove. But, as I said, in mathematics also are surprising phenomena for subject matters (e.g.

Re: [PEIRCE-L] André De Tienne: Slow Read slide 14

List, Here is a malicious criticism from someone who obviously hasn't read what he is criticizing ... I won't say more ... except to tell those who read this thread to avoid reading the opinions of someone who makes you say the opposite of what you said without checking anything ... But let's stay

Re: [PEIRCE-L] André De Tienne: Slow Read slide 14

Robert, List: RM: What you describe is right for the experimental sciences of nature, i.e. the knowledge of objects in the outer world. The objects of Phaneroscopy are in the inner world. On the contrary, as Gary F. already pointed out, phaneroscopy does not concern itself with the distinction b

RE: [PEIRCE-L] André De Tienne: Slow Read slide 14

List, CSP: ... every man inhabits two worlds. These are directly distinguishable by their different appearances. But the greatest difference between them, by far, is that one of these two worlds, the Inner World, exerts a comparatively slight compulsion upon us, though we can by direct effor

[PEIRCE-L] André De Tienne: Slow Read slide 16

Continuing our slow read, here is the next slide of André De Tienne’s slideshow posted on the Peirce Edition Project (iupui.edu) site. Comments, questions and counter-arguments are welcome. (Personal attacks are not. This is peirce-l, not

[PEIRCE-L] André De Tienne: Slow Read slide 15

Continuing our slow read, here is the next slide of André De Tienne’s slideshow posted on the Peirce Edition Project (iupui.edu) site. Here begins Part 3 of the presentation. The next two slides will follow shortly. Gary f. Te

Re: [PEIRCE-L] André De Tienne: Slow Read slide 14

Gary F., John Alan, Gary R., List, What you describe is right for the experimental sciences of nature, i.e. the knowledge of objects in the outer world. The objects of Phaneroscopy are in the inner world. It so happens that in this world, the relations between A preliminary mathematical result go