Gary R, Gary F, list,
From my cherry-picking readings in the orchard of Peirce, I gathered the
impression that
Every phenomenon has three aspects he called (081314-1)
Firstness, Secondness and Thirdness.
If this impression of mine is true, why can't phaneron itself have these
Gary,
GR: I would maintain that, and apart from analysis, in our phenomenological
experience those several qualities are felt as distinct.
GF: I would agree with that. They are felt as distinct when the analysis is
not under conscious control, as the percept itself is not.
Gary, all,
Gary F. wrote:
But phaneroscopy is looking for the elements of the phaneron, not the
elements of experience, and certainly not the elements of *human* experience
only. I can well believe that the only way to do this scientifically (i.e.
communally) is by way of iconoscopy, or
John, you wrote,
I think you would have to agree that experiencing firsts is at least very
difficult and something that we do not usually do. In particular, because of
this, they cannot be the ground of other experiences. If so, then this is
the point I have been trying to make.
I think
To the extent that I understand Firsts as originating in feelings (derived
I infer from some effort to sense what is coming up in one's
consciousness, having willed to seek to plumb it, it seems to me that a
First begins with that feeling and that it is then named with one or more
terms. For
Gary, John, list,
GR: Although I agree that Firstness (rather, any given First as quality or
character) does not admit of discreteness or plurality, I'm not so certain
that we can't really speak of 'firsts' in the plural. Doesn't it happen
that within a moment of a single experience that
Gary F, list,
I'm not at all convinced of the following.
GF: Speaking both for my own phaneroscopy and for my understanding of
Peirce's, I would say that the redness, the roundness, the coolness and the
solidity of the apple are all constituents of the single feeling which is
the experience of
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