RE: [PEIRCE-L] RE: Systems Of Interpretation

2016-04-07 Thread gnox
ent much further down the road of inquiry than that, so my reading of Peirce is still far from finished. Gary f. -Original Message- From: Jon Awbrey [mailto:jawb...@att.net] Sent: 6-Apr-16 11:45 To: g...@gnusystems.ca; 'Peirce List' Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] RE: Systems Of Inte

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Systems Of Interpretation

2016-04-07 Thread kirstima
Jon, list I do remember your three-dimensional visualization of sign relations, Jon. I had no intention of excluding you three-dimensional presentations. I appreciate your work, it just is not my cup of tea. My note to the list was NOT about sign relations, it was about understanding the mea

Re: [PEIRCE-L] RE: Systems Of Interpretation

2016-04-06 Thread Jon Awbrey
Gary, List, Surely you must understand that sign relations are special cases of triadic relations, namely those that satisfy a certain definition, and that triadic relations are special cases of relations in general. If Peirce's various logical algebras, calculi, formal systems, graphical syntax

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Systems Of Interpretation

2016-04-06 Thread gnox
Jon wrote, [[ Peirce's existential graphs are a general calculus for expressing the same subject matter as his earlier logic of relative terms and thus they serve to represent the structures of many-place relations. ]] Peirce wrote, [[[ this system is not intended as a calculus, or apparatu

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Systems Of Interpretation - Contrasting the diagrams of ammonia and the handedness of carbon compounds.

2016-04-06 Thread kirstima
-Original Message- From: Jerry LR Chandler [mailto:jerry_lr_chand...@icloud.com] Sent: Tuesday, 05 April 2016 6:24 AM To: Peirce List Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Systems Of Interpretation Jon, John: Thanks, Jon. The question I raised was in order to seek alternative interpretations of CSP’s di

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Systems Of Interpretation - Contrasting the diagrams of ammonia and the handedness of carbon compounds.

2016-04-05 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
threes, >> but it is also such an obvious error that I can't help but wonder if >> we are missing something. >> John Collier >> Professor Emeritus and Senior Research Associate >> University of KwaZulu-Natal >> http://web.ncf.ca/collier <http://web.nc

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Systems Of Interpretation

2016-04-05 Thread gnox
List Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Systems Of Interpretation Jon, John: Thanks, Jon. The question I raised was in order to seek alternative interpretations of CSP’s diagram of a chemical structure, ammonia. (NH3) He showed it as a triad. The nitrogen atom was in the middle of the

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Systems Of Interpretation

2016-04-05 Thread kirstima
help but wonder if we are missing something. John Collier Professor Emeritus and Senior Research Associate University of KwaZulu-Natal http://web.ncf.ca/collier -Original Message- From: Jerry LR Chandler [mailto:jerry_lr_chand...@icloud.com] Sent: Tuesday, 05 April 2016 6:24 AM To: Peirc

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Systems Of Interpretation

2016-04-04 Thread John Collier
erry LR Chandler [mailto:jerry_lr_chand...@icloud.com] > Sent: Tuesday, 05 April 2016 6:24 AM > To: Peirce List > Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Systems Of Interpretation > > Jon, John: > > Thanks, Jon. > > The question I raised was in order to seek alternative interpre

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Systems Of Interpretation

2016-04-04 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
Jon, John: Thanks, Jon. The question I raised was in order to seek alternative interpretations of CSP’s diagram of a chemical structure, ammonia. (NH3) He showed it as a triad. The nitrogen atom was in the middle of the three hydrogens, each at the end of a spoke. NOT a triangle. But, th

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Systems Of Interpretation

2016-04-04 Thread John Collier
I strongly agree, Jon. Reading meaning into artefacts of the representation is not typically transparent. I would say that the whole symbol represents the sign with its threefold character and that the node is not some separate signifier. To put it on this level is, as you suggest, a category er