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Dear List,
With a humble heart and a spirit of most sincere gratitude toward
those who have preceded me in such exemplary manners, I now commence
as the next emcee for this slow read of Joseph Ransdell's (JR's)
papers. The paper on which I focus is entitled, "Sciences as
Commu
Dear List,
It has come to my attention that at least the PC users on this
listserve may not have been able to click on the links to the
internet provided in the initial post on the "Sciences as
communicational communities" paper. Trying again, I am posting them
in a different manner this tim
Dear Jerry, List,
Thanks much for your comments and for contributing the "Friends of
Wisdom" post (which I do not replicate here because my last attempt
to post this email to the list was reject due to an "attachment of
type 'IMAGE/PNG' that I believe that post may have contained). I
hope yo
ities",
Organization: The Interdisciplinary Journal of Organization, Theory,
and Society 8(2), Sage Publications,
London, UK, pp. 269-284.
* http://org.sagepub.com/content/8/2/269.abstract
Jon
Sally Ness wrote:
Dear Jerry, List,
Thanks much for your comments and for contributing the "Frien
Segment 1
Dear List:
Well, hurricane or no hurricane (I hope all of you on the East Coast
are safe and dry), it's time to get down to brass tacks. In this
post I will take a somewhat more detailed look at the first six
paragraphs of JR's paper, and identify a few questions that they
raise.
Jon, List,
Thanks much for this response.
With regard to the first question, since it is most likely not a
dualism between discovery and invention that JR had in mind, what
would be the alternative. He wouldn't have italicized "discovery"
had he not meant to contrast it with something else.
Segment 2
Dear List:
I progress on, now, to paragraphs 7-11 of the paper "Sciences as
Communicational Communities," Again, the text segment is reproduced
at the bottom of this email in its entirety.
In this segment, JR focuses mainly on the details of the case made
against scientists by a
: [peirce-l] Slow Read : "Sciences as Communicational
Communities" Segment 2
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Segment 3
Dear List,
I move on now to the next segment of the paper, "Sciences as
Communicational Communities," as I am dividing it. This segment
begins with paragraph 11 and ends with paragraph 17. It is
reproduced in its entirety at the end of the post. There are a
number of subjects ad
onstructivism, Sophistic relativism,
or so-called "consensual theory of truth". So say we all, I'm guessing.
However much we construct or invent our humanly erratic signs of reality,
the reality itself is "independent" of our vagaries and our vicissitudes.
That would be j
Dear List,
Given the change in scheduling for the paper "On Peirce's Conception
of the Iconic Sign" I'm going to slow the pace of the slow read of
the paper now in progress, "Sciences As Communicational Communities."
Expect the next post around the end of this week sometime.
Best to all,
Sal
Segment 4
Dear List,
This post will address paragraphs 18 to 21 of the paper, "Sciences as
Communicational Communities." The paragraphs are reproduced below in
their entirety. As I have mentioned before, this segment appears to
be the crux of the paper, where JR lays out his vision of scien
ween "espoused" goals, values, etc. and
"enacted" or "actual" goals, values, etc.
In these terms, honesty, integrity, sincerity,
etc. would be measures of coherence
or consistency between the espoused and the enacted.
Jon
Sally Ness wrote:
Segment 4
Dear List,
List, Jerry,
Thank you, Jerry, for your kind words in your last post. They are appreciated.
As nearly all of what I would say in response to your very
interesting remarks on the concept of sincerity in relation to bias
will come out as well the next segment of the paper we are
considering, a
Segment 5
List,
As Jerry Chandler has commented, how much weight the scientific
community places on the concept of sincerity may be open to doubt.
However, there is little doubt about the weight the community places
on the concept of truth. The fifth segment of the paper, "Sciences
as Commu
perties", as JR puts it in
paragraph 23.
That's how i see it, anyway.
Gary F.
} Sincerity is incommunicable because it becomes insincere by being
communicated. [Luhmann] {
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gnoxic studies: Peirce
From: C S Peirce
: "So I
am trying to say something that sounds like pragmatism."
Similarities, yes; but many differences, too. It would be an
interesting thread.
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Michael,
Thanks so much. I look forward to pursuing this.
Sally
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Segment 6
Dear List,
First, thank you, Gene, for your post. It zeroes
in on a phenomenon that has not been addressed
since the opening segments of this slow read: Big
Science (this is certainly the target of much of
Kleinman's critical research). I so appreciate
the manner in which you ha
Jon,
Thank you for this reminder Jon--I should have mentioned it
specifically in the last post. And thanks also for identifying the
additional resources.
I wish I had some word of consolation for you. However, Peirce also
faced very depressing circumstances and still managed to do the work
live long enough to
make them all yourself. [Eleanor Roosevelt] {
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gnoxic studies: Peirce
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* J
Thanks Jerry--I am glad you brought out the positive value that
debate of the more legalistic kind can also have. Peirce's negative
comments--those cited previously, anyway--obscure this somewhat, and
they do not do justice to the best of what the American legal system
has produced by way of i
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