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1994-08-25 Thread Robert Patton
As I am moving out of town, would you please cease sending me pen-l messages? thanks. -rob patton

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1994-08-25 Thread Jim Devine
did anyone else notice that it's soon going to be time for a 25th anniversary commemorative concert in ohonor of the Altamont concert? Maybe some of the groups that were there, such as the Rolling Stones and the Hell's Angels would reappear. gimme shelter, Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL

Re: Too many college students?

1994-08-25 Thread Richard Clark
I appreciate the very thoughtful replies to my postings. My reply follows. I'm not saying that "_any_ form of federal, tax-payer support for access to higher education should be done away with," as Mark Laffey understands me to say. As long as the economy has any need for additional peopl

Re: Too Many College Students

1994-08-25 Thread Cotter_Cindy
_The Economist_ recently ran an article (August 20-26, p44) on Germany's much admired dual system of education -- two tracks, one academic, one vocational. It's running into trouble. The need for highly skilled blue collar workers is declining, the demand for more flexible generalists with great

Re: Too many college students?

1994-08-25 Thread Thomas Schumacher
Well, if it's any consolation, here at O$U we're consolidating and downsizing our communication and journalism departments in favor of "core social sciences" like economics (!), political science, sociology and psychology (all with a quantitative focus). At least this university is trying to av

Re: Too many college students?

1994-08-25 Thread Alan G. Isaac
Although I appreciated much of the passion behind Mark Laffey's post, I do think there are important questions to be raised about the public subsidy of higher education. In one sense, I think it is inadequate, since I would like to see higher education freely available to anyone interested. (Whet

RE: Too many college students?

1994-08-25 Thread PLMASON
Sometimes I have serious reservations about the "left." Richard's remarks on education are precisely the same as though of Milton Friedman and others circa 1968-1973. This was precisely the point in time colleges and college financing were forced open to accommodate working class students -- espec

RE: Too many college students?

1994-08-25 Thread PLMASON
Richard: I think that there are two flaws in your posting. One, the relative return to a college degree has been increasing since the early 1980s, i.e., the college graduate - non-college graduate differential has been increasing -- especially for people with advanced degrees. Two, undergradua

Re: Too many college students?

1994-08-25 Thread Mark Laffey
If I understand this correctly, you are suggesting that any form of federal, tax-payer support for access to higher education should be done away with. The argument is that there is no room (or very little) in the higher echelon, which is where these people think they are going, so they should no

Too many college students?

1994-08-25 Thread Richard Clark
I have no problem with students choosing to attend a university for the purpose of improving their thinking skills, to expand their breadth of knowledge in whatever subject gives them the most pleasure, or to simply enrich their consciousness and their appreciation of the human drama. But unl

Mortgage deduction v. L-I housing

1994-08-25 Thread Dana Wise
We have this rough table comparing federal spending for all forms of subsidized housing with federal tax expenditures for housing (which includes but is not limited to the mortgage interest deduction). Feel free to contact me for more information. We're using this information in a national campa

Re: Too many college students?

1994-08-25 Thread Richard Clark
Your point is well taken.

Re: Too many college students?

1994-08-25 Thread Jim Devine
one benefit of "too many college students" is that *employers* can see a queue of job-seekers and then pick and choose the ones that are best for their purposes. This gives the employers quite an advantage in their relationship to employees. in pen-l solidarity, Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] or

Too many college students?

1994-08-25 Thread Richard Clark
How do we address the problem that many American students of limited talent are now spending huge amounts of time and money pursuing some brass-ring occupation, only to (inevitably) see their dreams denied? The fact is that we are educating many more prospective managers and professionals th

Re: Household of Minerva?

1994-08-25 Thread Jim Devine
The accumulation of capital (the reproduction of capitalist class relations on a wider and wider scale) has been destroying and transforming family organization for a long time (200 years+), just as with other pre-capitalist organizations. As a result, there's *always* been a contradiction within

Does PBS neglect the left?

1994-08-25 Thread Dale Wharton
This item about Congressman Bernard Sanders appeared in Computer underground Digest 6.71--Usenet newsgroup -- issued August 11. --_ Dale Wharton [EMAIL PROTECTED]M O N T R E A LTe souviens-tu? 8<--- couper ici -