[PEN-L:12435] Not Gruntled

1997-09-18 Thread Terrence Mc Donough
I agree with Doug's more nuanced views on pomo. Identifying the Sokal affair as a turning point is not to assert that it was the definitive or even an important critique. We must look elsewhere for that. Is it profoundly ironic, or profoundly non-ironic that an ironic intervention (a jape i

[PEN-L:12436] Growing Impoverishment Of Albanians

1997-09-18 Thread Shawgi A. Tell
The latest statistics reveal that the per capita income in Albania is continuing to decline rapidly. Already the poorest country in Europe, per capita income has declined from $800 USD per year in 1996 to around $600 USD per year based on the average for the first seven months of 1997. The

[PEN-L:12440] Re: cultural relativism

1997-09-18 Thread Ricardo Duchesne
> Date sent: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 05:05:05 -0700 (PDT) > Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > From: Colin Danby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Multiple recipients of list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject:[PEN-L:12404] Re: the beautiful poor > >I think Maggie Coleman is quite

[PEN-L:12439] Nonprofit organizations in Maryland

1997-09-18 Thread Wojtek Sokolowski
Maryland Association of Nonprofit Organizations and Johns Hopkins University just issued a report form a survey of Maryland nonprofit organizations. Some more interesting findings include: - nonprofit sector is a major employer in MD, it employs more people than manufacturing and created over

[PEN-L:12445] Re: POMO on Social Classes

1997-09-18 Thread Laurence Shute
Maggie and all, At Columbia University, from the 1930's until his death in the late 1950's (1958?), the Marxist sociologist and anthropologist Bernard J. Stern -- who gave the journal "Science and Society" its name -- taught graduate courses in Social Class. Perhaps also at the New School, where

[PEN-L:12447] cultural relativism

1997-09-18 Thread James Devine
Ricardo Duchesne writes that: >Being totally against ethnocentrism leads to cultural relativism, which is that no culture is superior or inferior to others, which means that one foregoes the right to condemn other cultural practices.< Right. We have to learn how to steer between the Skylla of eth

[PEN-L:12448] Re: POMO on Social Classes

1997-09-18 Thread Louis Proyect
Postmodernism surely is capable of uncovering basic flaws in what passed for Marxism in the Social Democratic, Communist and Trotskyist movements, but I suppose astrology could as well. We have been burdened by horrendous dogmatism in the name of Marxism. "Official" Marxism has been reductionist,

[PEN-L:12450] Re: the beautiful poor

1997-09-18 Thread Colin Danby
Ricardo Duchesne wrote: > Colin, I think you are asking some interesting questions. But I am > afraid that answering each one directly will get us bogged down into > an endless debate. Ricardo, I asked you *one* central question. When you used the term "cultural practice," what did you mea

[PEN-L:12452] Re: language-t

1997-09-18 Thread Ellen Dannin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Wed, 17 Sep 1997, tom wood wrote: > Richard Duchesne wrote: > >What about pre-linguistic mental capacities, say in the first two > >years of a child? This is possible, but should we call that > >"thinking"? > > Are you saying learning is possible without thinking? I wanted to wade in just t

[PEN-L:12455] Re: Lear's question on pomo

1997-09-18 Thread William S. Lear
On Thu, September 18, 1997 at 10:22:55 (-0700) Doug Henwood writes: >William S. Lear wrote: > >>I realize that you are being brief, but can you tell us what, in plain >>English, pomo offers that cannot be found elsewhere? > >I don't have time to answer this right now, but I will soon. That would

[PEN-L:12456] Coverage of APEC WLN protest, Sept 13/97, Hull (fwd)

1997-09-18 Thread Sid Shniad
> - > > Coverage of "APEC Women Leaders' Meeting" protest, September 13, 1997, > Hull > > 1. The Ottawa Sun, Sunday September 14, 1997, Page 21 > 2. The Ottawa Citizen, Sunday September 14, 1997 Page A6 > 3. The Globe and Mail, M

[PEN-L:12458] ***FoI Act invoked in pen-l!***

1997-09-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Quoth Bill Lear: > I realize that you are being brief, but can you tell us what, in plain > English, pomo offers that cannot be found elsewhere?[...] [...] > How would pomo help us enrich our understanding of class---or race or > gender, for that matter? > Conv

[PEN-L:12457] CFP: "Globalization from Below" (fwd)

1997-09-18 Thread Sid Shniad
> please post and forward... > >"Globalization From Below: > Contingency and Contestation in Historical Perspective" > > an international conference at Duke University, Durham, NC > > February 5th-8th, 1998 > > Second call for papers: abstrac

[PEN-L:12453] The ITF on the International Day of Action (fwd)

1997-09-18 Thread Sid Shniad
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > The ITF reports (part of) the International Day of Actiom in support of the > Liverpool dockers without even mentioning them !! This is scandalous. > > Chris Bailey > > --- > > >From ITF Info 13 > > Dockers' unions take action for global solidar

[PEN-L:12454] KPFA Workers Sign Divisive Contract, Lay-Off's Follow (fwd)

1997-09-18 Thread Sid Shniad
> Subject: KPFA Workers Sign Divisive Contract, Lay-Off's Follow > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [Those unfamiliar with the history of Pacifica radio may want to check out > . -- Aaron] > > Date: Tue, 16 Sep 97 09:09:50 CDT > From: "Lyn Gerry" <[EMAIL PROT

[PEN-L:12451] Re: M-FEM: Role of Prostitutes & Shoe-shiners union in Spain? (fwd)

1997-09-18 Thread Barnet Wagman
In his book on the war, _In Homage to Catalonia_, George Orwell talked about shoe shiners (I imagine he called them bootblacks) as being strong supporters of anarchism and - I think - as being unionized. Barnet Wagman

[PEN-L:12449] Prisoner to Prisoner, part 2: the soldier responds

1997-09-18 Thread Robert Naiman
>From the New York Times August 25, 1997 After Bombings, an Israeli's Protests Stand Out By JOEL GREENBERG [R] AANANA, Israel -- Yuval Lotem, a lieutenant in the Israeli army reserve, vividly remembers the scene when he reported to the Meg

[PEN-L:12446] non-profits

1997-09-18 Thread James Devine
Wojtek Sokolowski brings up the issue of the nonprofits. My wife has worked for several nonprofit organizations since I met her and it's amazing how bad most of them are. One of them, the Arthritis Foundation, gave company cars and big salaries to their vice-presidents, except for the one who wa

[PEN-L:12444] Lear's question on pomo

1997-09-18 Thread Doug Henwood
William S. Lear wrote: >I realize that you are being brief, but can you tell us what, in plain >English, pomo offers that cannot be found elsewhere? I don't have time to answer this right now, but I will soon. Doug

[PEN-L:12443] Re: August Unemployment Figures (Canada)

1997-09-18 Thread Doug Henwood
Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: >In fact, employment statistics can be >criticised along the same lines as other economic aggregates, such as GDP -- >namely, that the reported figures do not distinguish between qualitatively >different phenomena. For example, GPI (Genuine Progress Indicator) uses the >

[PEN-L:12442] M-FEM: Role of Prostitutes & Shoe-shiners union in Spain? (fwd)

1997-09-18 Thread Harry M. Cleaver
Does anyone know anything about the bit of Spanish Civil war history mentioned below? Or do you know someone who might know? If you do know could you reply to both the M-Fem list below and to me. Thanks Harry -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 21:59:38 +0200 (SAT) Fro

[PEN-L:12441] Re: Peadophile cover-up all the way to the top of Aussie politics?

1997-09-18 Thread Harry M. Cleaver
Andrew: Can you resend this message in the body of the text and/or as text-only? On Thu, 18 Sep 1997, Andrew Dragun wrote: > Peadophilia, cover-up and dirty politics? > > Some folks might find this interesting! ... Ms Arena, who > made the allegations, is highly believable ... she was > respons

[PEN-L:12438] Re: August Unemployment Figures (Canada)

1997-09-18 Thread Doug Henwood
Shawgi A. Tell wrote: > U.S. corporations cut over 230,000 jobs in the first five months >of 1996 - the fastest in a decade and 34% more jobs than the same period >in 1995. This level of cuts is 6.5% higher than 1993, the highest year of >job elimination this decade. A total of 615,186 jo

[PEN-L:12437] Re: Not gruntled

1997-09-18 Thread William S. Lear
On Wed, September 17, 1997 at 08:58:49 (-0700) Doug Henwood writes: >... >Oversimplifying greatly for this medium, my position has evolved from >thinking that all that stuff is silly & wrong to finding some of it so >(e.g. Donna Haraway and her inexplicably influential Cyborg essay) - but in >any

[PEN-L:12434] re: slurs

1997-09-18 Thread Ajit Sinha
At 06:49 16/09/97 -0700, you wrote: >Tom Walker writes: > >>> This is precisely the point at which identity politics swallows its own >tail. Mapping differences (race, culture, gender) onto static positions >of >victim and victimizer makes *less* sense than fitting all of humanity >into >two great

[PEN-L:12433] Peadophile cover-up all the way to the top of Aussie politics?

1997-09-18 Thread Andrew Dragun
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