Nude GDR (was Re: German environmentalism)

1998-05-11 Thread valis
Jim Devine muses: > I'm still stunned by the notion that the GDR was a major center of nudism. Yes, it's a discordant image, but the assertion is historically accurate, for East Germany was a thing of many parts. Arriving on the terraq

Re: Were the Nazis radical environmentalists?

1998-05-11 Thread valis
Kudos to Louis for this discussion; less commendable is the very fact of its necessity. Does Anna Bramwell's research implicitly unmask Greenpeacers as crypto-fascists? Was Nazi village-ism just a tactical ploy cynically borrowed from the Soviet kolkhoz? Early on, most revolutionary movements

Re: German environmentalism

1998-05-11 Thread michael
Nope! Taft was more active in trust busting than Roosevelt, although Teddy talked a good game. Doesn't Clinton take Roosevelt as a role model? James Devine wrote: > Barkley writes: >Well, Teddy Roosevelt also supported the Pure Food Act and > busted trusts. > -- Michael Perelman Economics

Re: German environmentalism

1998-05-11 Thread James Devine
Barkley writes: >Well, Teddy Roosevelt also supported the Pure Food Act and busted trusts. Does that mean that supporting those activities was also imperialist?< No. The Pure Food Act was in response to the general popular disgust evoked by Upton Sinclair's THE JUNGLE. It came, therefore, partly

Re: Econ. 101 revisited

1998-05-11 Thread James Devine
pen-l's enlightened one writes: >I would also add to this the fact that companies are keeping a lot less cash on their balance sheets. They use it to buy back stock or to buy other companies. This means that they cannot finance new inventories out of cash and simply raise prices to try and reco

longshore solidarity strike (fwd)

1998-05-11 Thread michael
Forwarded message: Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: David Bacon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 16:17:40 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Bacon) Subject: longshore solidarity strike THE WAR ON THE WHARFIES HITS L.A. By David Bacon TERMINA

Re: Surprised?

1998-05-11 Thread shmage
Raju Das wrote: >Please consider the following three propositions and let me know where my >argument does not make sense. Maybe, it doesn't make sense at all. > > >1. As we know, the rate of profit = s/(c+v) = (s/v)/(1+c/v). There is a basic error right here. The rate of profit is s/C+V, not s

Re: US conservationism {was: German environmentalism}

1998-05-11 Thread Louis Proyect
> I was referring to the link through TR, specifically. (I'm far from being >a TR expert, so I'm speculating.) His style of macho physical culture >(trying to make up for his own physical limitations), with >frontier-oriented "Rough Rider" mentality seems both to fit with the idea >of preserving

Re: US conservationism {was: German environmentalism}

1998-05-11 Thread Peter Dorman
I should be grading right now, so I'll give a very abbreviated response to this thread. There has always been an important element within the US environmental/conservation movement that emphasizes "manliness", adventure, etc. in the outdoors. In TR's time, that was epitomized by the Hunt and Gun

Re: German environmentalism

1998-05-11 Thread Rosser Jr, John Barkley
Jim, Well, Teddy Roosevelt also supported the Pure Food Act and busted trusts. Does that mean that supporting those activities was also imperialist? Barkley Rosser On Mon, 11 May 1998 12:57:50 -0700 James Devine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > with regard to the right-wing nature of (some)

Re: German environmentalism

1998-05-11 Thread Louis Proyect
At 12:57 PM 5/11/98 -0700, you wrote: >with regard to the right-wing nature of (some) environmentalism, we should >remember that the national parks movement in the US was linked to >imperialism, with leaders such as Teddy Roosevelt. > >Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & How were they linked exactly?

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1998-05-11 Thread Michael Perelman
Regarding the following quote: corporations would get coal lands virtually free by pretending to be prospective farmers. Nothing was done to stop the scam. Louis Proyect wrote: She points out that James Weaver, who ran twice > as a protest candidate for president, wrote in 1892: "The public do

German environmentalism

1998-05-11 Thread Rosser Jr, John Barkley
Louis Proyect is right about early Soviet environmentalism and why it disintegrated. He is also right that the origins of environmentalism in Germany come from early in the nineteenth century and are associated with both the right and the left, although he prefers to downplay how strong

Re: Marx on Prices; Lenin Quote

1998-05-11 Thread Ajit Sinha
At 15:12 8/05/98 -0400, you wrote: >Folks, > >I found an interesting quote about prices in the Contribution > >"Prices are thus high or low not because more or less money is in circulation, >but there is more money in circulation because prices are high or low. This >is one of the principal econo

FW: Action Alert from UFWC ETF - Istook Amendment to US Constitution

1998-05-11 Thread Bove, Roger E.
-- From: Linda Sander To: John Atkeison; Cindy & Wayne Bullaughey -- Home; Ed & Kitty Caruthers; Shelly Case; Ed & Diane Cohle; Elaine Friedlander; Irv Friedlander; Robin Garrett; Gerry Giess; Gil - home Jacobsen; Gil - work Jacobsen; Sue Johnston; Debby Kern; Sue Larson; Ruth & Jim

two short pieces in "Z" magazine

1998-05-11 Thread Mike Yates
Friends, I just read two good short pieces in the latest issue of "Z" magazine. The first, written by the staff and titled "Economics?", is about the sad state of the economics profession. It starts out by noting Columbia's payment of a salary of $300,000 to Robert Barro. It goes on to comment

Re: US conservationism {was: German environmentalism}

1998-05-11 Thread James Devine
I had written: >>with regard to the right-wing nature of (some) environmentalism, we should remember that the national parks movement in the US was linked to imperialism, with leaders such as Teddy Roosevelt.<< understandably, Louis asks: >How were they linked exactly?< I was referring to the l

Re: Eurovison song contest....

1998-05-11 Thread Wojtek Sokolowski
At 11:22 PM 5/9/98 +0100, Rebecca wrote: >Hi Folks, > >I have just been watching the Eurovision song contest on BBC. It seems to me >that as a contest it has nothing to with talent. If anything it reinforces >musical and lyrical mediocrity. > >The contest is a clear case of the political exploitat

Re: German environmentalism

1998-05-11 Thread James Devine
with regard to the right-wing nature of (some) environmentalism, we should remember that the national parks movement in the US was linked to imperialism, with leaders such as Teddy Roosevelt. I'm still stunned by the notion that the GDR was a major center of nudism. It reminds me (don't ask me ho

Re: where have all the talking heads gone?

1998-05-11 Thread Peter Dorman
My excuse is that this is the grading crunch. I have a huge stack to go through. (Of course, I'm mostly a lurking head anyway.) Peter Dorman > >Congratulations to Doug and Louis on your new e-mail lists, but since I > >have not (yet?) subscribed to either of them, my e-mail life seems > >awful

Re: where have all the talking heads gone?

1998-05-11 Thread Doug Henwood
>Congratulations to Doug and Louis on your new e-mail lists, but since I >have not (yet?) subscribed to either of them, my e-mail life seems >awfully quiet now that I only get 2 messages a day on pen-l and not >40-50. Oh, heavens, I didn't want this to happen. I was hoping lbo-talk would be a pla

Re: Surprised?

1998-05-11 Thread Das, Raju
Dear Michael, Please consider the following three propositions and let me know where my argument does not make sense. Maybe, it doesn't make sense at all. 1. As we know, the rate of profit = s/(c+v) = (s/v)/(1+c/v). 2. The fact that many US firms are investing money in the Third World perhaps

Re: FW: Action Alert from UFWC ETF - Istook Amendment to USConstitution

1998-05-11 Thread James Devine
Please tell us the details of the Istook Amendment. What does it do, establish Christianity as the state religion? Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & http://clawww.lmu.edu/Departments/ECON/jdevine.html "he who is unable to live in society or has no need, because he is sufficient for himself, must be

Memoir of an "Afro-Chinese" Marxist

1998-05-11 Thread Louis Proyect
In 1938, the great Trinidadian Marxist C.L.R. James, then a rising star of the international intellectual left, came to New York and almost immediately plunged himself into obscurity. James formed a tiny anti-Stalinist Marxist groupuscle, the Johnson-Forest Tendency, and for more than a dozen year

where have all the talking heads gone?

1998-05-11 Thread Fleck_S
Congratulations to Doug and Louis on your new e-mail lists, but since I have not (yet?) subscribed to either of them, my e-mail life seems awfully quiet now that I only get 2 messages a day on pen-l and not 40-50. Maybe I'll just be more productive at work, then. Susan Susan Fleck w:(202) 606-56

Re: Were the Nazis radical environmentalists?

1998-05-11 Thread Louis Proyect
James Heartfield: >Karl Marx also was well aware of the influence of nature worship in >Germany. This is what he had to say about it: > >'We see that this cult of nature is limited to Sunday walks of an >inhabitant of a small provincial town who childishly wonders at the >cukoo laying its eggs in

A Proposal for Arbitraging Free Time

1998-05-11 Thread Tom Walker
A Proposal for Arbitraging Free Time Introduction When a commodity sells for unequal prices in different markets, an opportunity arises to profit from arbitrage -- buying and selling the commodity simultaneously in the different markets. The commodity in question is free time. This proposal woul