[PEN-L:132] Re: Re: The Left and Inequality

1998-07-06 Thread James Devine
> > >I have been reading Alec Nove's "Economics of Feasible Socialism Revisited" > >and came across his argument that the Left is misguided when it puts too > >much emphasis on the wealth of the super-rich, on the grounds that > >redistributing the wealth or income of the super-rich will not g

[PEN-L:131] [Fwd: Coalition at Odds on Monitoring Factory Codes]

1998-07-06 Thread michael
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --171987CFD6AF4086FD1B9313 Sid Shniad wrote: > The New York Times > > Coalition Against Sweatshops at Odds on Monitoring Factory Codes > > By Steven Greenhouse > > Eight months past its self-imposed deadline to set up a code of c

[PEN-L:130] [Fwd: pls post widely]

1998-07-06 Thread michael
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --BDACDA513AD61326577FEDC2 Sid Shniad wrote: > >Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 12:36:16 -0700 > >From: murray dobbin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: pls post widely > > > >Request to all an

[PEN-L:127] Re: The Left and Inequality

1998-07-06 Thread Fellows, Jeffrey
By my estimates, which will be published soon: Real GDP/labor year [40hours a week x 52 weeks] in 1995 was $54,985 for workers 16 and over. Real GDP/person with work experience was $48,093, and per capita was $32,955. Of course, these figures do not include accumulated wealth, which is what other

[PEN-L:129] pen-l problems over???

1998-07-06 Thread Michael Perelman
Kevin Batt tells me that he has a new release of the software that supposedly fixes our problems. I hope so. One exception. If you receive the digest and use microsoft mail, then send a message to listproc set pen-l digest-nomime That should fix a known bug. -- Michael Perelman Economics Dep

[PEN-L:128] Re: Re: The Left and Inequality

1998-07-06 Thread Gar W. Lipow
I appreciate the correction. It reinforces my point -- if income was divided up more or less equally a more than 80% would be better off in immmediate material terms (not mention the benefits of reduced insecurity, lower crime rates ) Two questons 1). To get a feel for how more or less equal in

[PEN-L:122] Re: The Left and Inequality

1998-07-06 Thread Doug Henwood
Robert Naiman wrote: >I have been reading Alec Nove's "Economics of Feasible Socialism Revisited" >and came across his argument that the Left is misguided when it puts too >much emphasis on the wealth of the super-rich, on the grounds that >redistributing the wealth or income of the super-rich wi

[PEN-L:125] Re: Re: Re: The Left and Inequality

1998-07-06 Thread Gar W. Lipow
Actually I think that even in terms of income that this is plain wrong. I recently saw the figure cited on the LBO list that if the U.S.GDP were distributed equally per hour worked (after substacting capital investment) then pre-tax earnings would be $22 an hour. This means a single earner famil

[PEN-L:126] Re: Why Do Markets Crash?

1998-07-06 Thread Eugene P. Coyle
I've been re-reading Polanyi's "The Great Transformation" and came across a passage referring to the crash of 1929- and later. He is talking about the defense of the British Pound and the Gold Standard: "This preoccupation which spanned the Arlantic brought America unexpe

[PEN-L:120] Re: The Left and Inequality

1998-07-06 Thread Louis Proyect
At 11:22 AM 7/6/98 -0500, you wrote: >I have been reading Alec Nove's "Economics of Feasible Socialism Revisited" >and came across his argument that the Left is misguided when it puts too >much emphasis on the wealth of the super-rich, on the grounds that >redistributing the wealth or income of

[PEN-L:119] The Left and Inequality

1998-07-06 Thread Robert Naiman
I have been reading Alec Nove's "Economics of Feasible Socialism Revisited" and came across his argument that the Left is misguided when it puts too much emphasis on the wealth of the super-rich, on the grounds that redistributing the wealth or income of the super-rich will not go very far. I

[PEN-L:124] Re: Re: The Left and Inequality

1998-07-06 Thread Eugene P. Coyle
Perhaps a glitch in PEN-L has made me come into the middle of this. So I'm not sure who is who below. But I wanted to comment on the old false argument that is pointed out by Nove -- "that the Left is misguided when it puts too >>much emphasis on the wealth of the super-rich, on the grounds that

[PEN-L:121] Re: The Left and Inequality

1998-07-06 Thread William S. Lear
On Mon, July 6, 1998 at 11:22:02 (-0500) Robert Naiman writes: >I have been reading Alec Nove's "Economics of Feasible Socialism Revisited" >and came across his argument that the Left is misguided when it puts too >much emphasis on the wealth of the super-rich, on the grounds that >redistributi

[PEN-L:118] BLS Daily Report

1998-07-06 Thread Richardson_D
This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. -- =_NextPart_000_01BDA8EB.0FCC25B0 charset="iso-8859-1" BLS DAILY REPORT, THURSDAY, JULY 2, 1998 RELEASED TODAY: Nonfarm payroll employment rose

[PEN-L:123] Re: Re: The Left and Inequality <13728.61752.754224.334615@acme.dejanews.com>

1998-07-06 Thread Michael Perelman
I think that Pareto began the redistribution argument. In part, he was correct. Suppose that you divided all money equally and sent everybody to the stock exchange to gamble. Many of the rich would know how to win back much of their money. Many people lack much more than money: education, know

[PEN-L:117] Re: Why Do Markets Crash?

1998-07-06 Thread Andrew C. Pollack
The article I saw on the SACP conference, from the Electronic Mail & Guardian, didn't quote these particular remarks (although what I saw certainly has the same tone). Where did you read about the conference? Do you need the Mail's piece to be forwarded? Andy Pollack On Mon, 06 Jul 1998 09:41:09

[PEN-L:116] Why Do Markets Crash?

1998-07-06 Thread Mark Jones
Days after a petulant Thabo Mbeki (Mandela's anointed successor as President of S Africa) complained to his ex-SACP comrades of the unreasonableness of making socialist demands at a time 'when our financial markets, like others in other parts of the world, a