[PEN-L:415] Marx, Balzac and Disappointment

1998-07-31 Thread michael perelman
I have always loved the oft cited Balzac quotation: Behind every fortune lies a great crime. I brought this question up once before: Where did Balzac say this in his novel Pere Goriot? valis pursued this on the Balzac list. Nobody knew of it. I just downloaded the novel: ftp://sailor.gutenbe

[PEN-L:414] Kenneth Starr and the tobacco connection (fwd)

1998-07-31 Thread michael
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[PEN-L:413] Re: Re: Re: Re: Naive question on Japanese Debt

1998-07-31 Thread valis
> Barkley and Jeff both write about the harm done by bursting bubbles. If harm > is done by bursting bubbles then expanding bubbles should be doing some > good. The stock market prosperity [is it still prosperous?] should be spread > all over. One of the chief messages of Doug Henwood's Wall St

[PEN-L:411] RCPT: Re: Re: Books on Bolshevik revolu

1998-07-31 Thread ECUSERS
Confirmation of reading: your message - Date:31 Jul 98 15:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:403] Re: Re: Books on Bolshevik revolution, Leninism Was read at 17:35, 31 Jul 98.

[PEN-L:412] Re: Re: Re: Naive question on Japanese Debt

1998-07-31 Thread michael perelman
Barkley and Jeff both write about the harm done by bursting bubbles. If harm is done by bursting bubbles then expanding bubbles should be doing some good. The stock market prosperity [is it still prosperous?] should be spread all over. One of the chief messages of Doug Henwood's Wall Street was

[PEN-L:405] RCPT: Re: Re: Books on Bolshevik revolu

1998-07-31 Thread Ricardo Duchesne
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[PEN-L:403] Re: Re: Books on Bolshevik revolution, Leninism, S

1998-07-31 Thread Ricardo Duchesne
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 12:45:39 -0400 To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Louis Proyect <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [PEN-L:400] Re: Books on Bolshevik revolution, Leninism, Stalinism Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 11:30 AM 7/31/98 -0500, Bill Lear w

[PEN-L:408] RE: Naive question on Japanese Debt

1998-07-31 Thread Fellows, Jeffrey
I find it hard to believe that only Chrysler stockholdes would have been hurt, even forgetting about union contracts which was a bigger pill to swallow back then than it is now. Consider: Chrysler bankruptcy --> collapse in stock values --> collapse of asset values used as collateral on other lo

[PEN-L:407] Re: Re: Re: Books on Bolshevik revolution,Leninism, S

1998-07-31 Thread Louis Proyect
>Lear, the above list will simply disconfirm Chomsky's claim, that the >*Bolshevik* revolution was responsible for ending soviet democracy. >You are better-off looking for some old-fashion liberal critique, a >Menshevik account, or an anarchist one. > >ricardo Ricardo, have you heard about a

[PEN-L:410] Re: Re: Naive question on Japanese Debt

1998-07-31 Thread Rosser Jr, John Barkley
Michael, A bit more. In principle nobody ought to get hurt. But, somehow when major bubbles burst there is often damage to the financial system that then feeds back on real investment. Both Mill and Marx saw that as a major factor in macro downturns. Barkley Rosser On Fri, 31 Jul 1998

[PEN-L:409] Re: Re: Naive question on Japanese Debt

1998-07-31 Thread Rosser Jr, John Barkley
Michael, Of course. You're the guy who reminded us that Marx and most earlier economists analyzed speculative bubbles from the standpoint of "fictitious capital." As we know, bubbles can keep going as long as nobody comes along and somehow blows everybody's (or the relevant somebodys')

[PEN-L:402] Clarification on Blackfoot documentary

1998-07-31 Thread Louis Proyect
The announcement I just posted was by Blackfoot leader Long Standing Bear Chief. I accidentally clipped his signature. Louis Proyect (http://www.panix.com/~lnp3/marxism.html)

[PEN-L:401] Blackfoot documentary

1998-07-31 Thread Louis Proyect
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[PEN-L:400] Re: Books on Bolshevik revolution, Leninism,Stalinism

1998-07-31 Thread Louis Proyect
At 11:30 AM 7/31/98 -0500, Bill Lear wrote: >I'm a bit naive on these topics and I'd like to read some critical >assessments of them. Chomsky contends (if I remember correctly) that >the Bolshevik revolution really destroyed the nascent socialism that >existed in the soviets, and I'm curious to k

[PEN-L:399] Books on Bolshevik revolution, Leninism, Stalinism

1998-07-31 Thread William S. Lear
I'm a bit naive on these topics and I'd like to read some critical assessments of them. Chomsky contends (if I remember correctly) that the Bolshevik revolution really destroyed the nascent socialism that existed in the soviets, and I'm curious to know more about this episode. Any suggestions wo

[PEN-L:396] Russian Miners' Railway Blockade

1998-07-31 Thread Gregory Schwartz
Kiriyenko Vows to Lift Miners' Railway Blockade MOSCOW -- (Agence France Presse, Reuters) Russian Prime Minister Sergei Kiriyenko (pictured) vowed Friday to reopen train tracks blocked by striking miners demanding back pay, Interfax news agency reported. "The government will reinstate order," K

[PEN-L:406] Re: On WW1 writings

1998-07-31 Thread Eugene P. Coyle
Thanks to Valis for the list of War novels -- and for all his other posts, which I read avidly. I want to mention another war book. As an Irish kid growing up in the 1930s I learned to hate Winston Churchill for what he did in Ireland. And so was never taken in when the propaganda beatif

[PEN-L:395] Re: Re: Naive question on Japanese Debt

1998-07-31 Thread Mathew Forstater
More from Randy on the "naive question".   michael- i thought i had better add this so that we don't go off on the wrong track. the "saddle the taxpayers" was a rhetorical statement; there are many things wrong with the way the s&l crisis was handled thru the rtc, and there were real costs to

[PEN-L:404] Re: Re: Naive question on Japanese Debt

1998-07-31 Thread Michael Perelman
I wholly agreee with Randy. Maybe we are are crazy but this talk of a financial crisis seems to be constructed out of device to protect what Marx called fictititous capital. Forgetting about union contracts for the moment, what would have happened if Chrysler had gone bankrupt and somebody picke

[PEN-L:394] Re: Naive question on Japanese Debt

1998-07-31 Thread Mathew Forstater
Michael- from Randy. -Mat mat: you can forward this. Michael: this probably isn't a very efficient way to discuss this, and i am not quite sure what the question is. but let me try to answer. 1. someone recently told me a story of a financial official (i can't remember if it was a banker or

[PEN-L:398] Shell Game: IMF vote next week. (fwd)

1998-07-31 Thread michael
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[PEN-L:397] 'Fast Track' Rides Back on Africa Bill (fwd)

1998-07-31 Thread michael
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[PEN-L:393] Re: Re: Re: Re: Saving Private Ryan

1998-07-31 Thread Louis Proyect
At 09:06 PM 7/30/98 EDT, you wrote: >There are supposed some great memoirs from 'the Great War' >Siegfried Sassoon's one of the best known as well as >some great literature including recently Pat Barker's Trilogy >and a novel called Birdsong (have forgotten the author) I am a big Pat Barker fan.