[PEN-L:313] Re: World financial calamity

1998-10-02 Thread Rob Schaap
G'day Penners, Time to go out on a limb. If I were one of those 'bargain hunters' who have hitherto responded to 3% drops with 2% rises the next day, I wouldn't get out of bed today. 'Sentiment' today ain't what it was last week. You wouldn't find a bull in Pamplona today. Greenspan has shot

[PEN-L:335] Crashed airliner carried

1998-10-02 Thread Frank Durgin
From Electronic Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk Crashed airliner carried chemical used in nerve gas By Paul

[PEN-L:336] BLS Daily Report

1998-10-02 Thread Richardson_D
This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. -- =_NextPart_000_01BDEE0A.375A6410 BLS DAILY REPORT, THURSDAY, OCTOBER 1, 1998 While the broadest measures of output may not confirm it for a few more

[PEN-L:338] Re: Re: Cyber-Sawicky

1998-10-02 Thread Doug Henwood
Tom Walker wrote: My crude hypothesis, which I divulged to Max and to Doug Henwood back in August, is that the recently deceased stock market bubble of the mid-1990s could be explained by a demographic anomoly which saw a substantial increase in the working force population at peak earning (and

[PEN-L:339] Growing crisis in Brazil

1998-10-02 Thread Louis Proyect
October 2, 1998 On Election Eve, Doubts Cloud Brazilians' Outlook By DIANA JEAN SCHEMO RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil -- When Josue da Silva stepped up to the consumer society four years ago, the ground underfoot felt solid and endless. For the first time in years inflation in Brazil was under

[PEN-L:340] Re: Threat to Free Speech in Copyright Law

1998-10-02 Thread michael perelman
MIchael E. is correct in his warning. Perhaps this could revive some interest in our project about intellectual property. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[PEN-L:341] Atlas Alan Shrugged

1998-10-02 Thread Tom Walker
No, I don't really have much to say in this message. I just couldn't resist the title idea. CBC radio news this morning featured Atlas Al's house testimony and he sounded, well, whiney and weak. Looks like the god of '87 has feet of clay in '98. Didn't somebody once mention that Greenspan was an

[PEN-L:343] Re: Re: Re: Cyber-Sawicky

1998-10-02 Thread Tom Walker
Doug Henwood wrote, The only problem with this thesis, Tom, is that U.S. savings rates have declined throughout the stock boom, with 98Q2 setting a post-Depression low of well under 1%, and the new money coming into the market was almost entirely the result of portfolio shifts out of banks and

[PEN-L:344] THE AGRIBUSINESS EXAMINER #5 (fwd)

1998-10-02 Thread michael
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[PEN-L:348] Query: PolEcon studies of tobacco trade

1998-10-02 Thread Fellows, Jeffrey
Hi folks: Does anyone know of good articles on the political economy of the tobacco and cigarette trade, particularly as it relates trade/investment liberalization? Jeff

[PEN-L:350] Re: RE: Re: Cyber-Sawicky

1998-10-02 Thread Dennis R Redmond
On Fri, 2 Oct 1998, Max Sawicky wrote: As long as the big, bad State has the power to tax anything it wants, it can finance anything it wants by taxing. Max, you raving, wild-eyed socialist, you. We *must* get you appointed to Treasury Secretary one of these days. And yes, you have our

[PEN-L:351] Re: Re: RE: Re: Cyber-Sawicky

1998-10-02 Thread Dennis R Redmond
On Fri, 2 Oct 1998, Louis Proyect wrote: The brute fact is that capitalist growth slowed down in the early '70s and neither neo-Keynsianism, nor monetarism has worked to change that. The reason for a slowdown in growth is that there is a slowdown in demand, which government policy under

[PEN-L:342] Country risks

1998-10-02 Thread Aditya Chakrabortty
Hi, Perhaps some of you are interested in this? Check this: At 136 of 180, Russia is now below Ethiopa, Togo and Bangladesh in how banks rates its risk for investment. Last yr it was 78. more at www.euromoney.com. COUNTRY RISK How the mighty

[PEN-L:353] Re: Cyber-Sawicky

1998-10-02 Thread Tom Walker
As long as the big, bad State has the power to tax anything it wants, it can finance anything it wants by taxing. Once again, Max, you are absolutely right. In principle. All it would take is a political upheaval of the magnitude of, say, a socialist revolution to enact Max's sensible

[PEN-L:346] Re: Cyber-Sawicky

1998-10-02 Thread Tom Walker
Sawicky cited Eisner, If workers are W, retirees R, and everybody else O, then W/R necessarily decreases more than W/(W+R+O). Workers have to "feed" everybody, so the latter is the more defensible ratio to compare over time. Its increase is in the single digits. Yes and no. O's don't

[PEN-L:345] RE: Re: Immigration will save Social Security (Re: Re: Cyber-Sawicky

1998-10-02 Thread Max Sawicky
With the discussion of social security, I thought people might be interested in this section of a campaign proposal I prepared informally for some immigrant rights friends: IMMIGRATION WILL SAVE SOCIAL SECURITY . . . A basic dilemma in this debate is the choice between offering fixes for a

[PEN-L:337] Re: Immigration will save Social Security (Re: Re: Cyber-Sawicky

1998-10-02 Thread Nathan Newman
Hi all, With the discussion of social security, I thought people might be interested in this section of a campaign proposal I prepared informally for some immigrant rights friends: IMMIGRATION WILL SAVE SOCIAL SECURITY Conservative political forces have been generating a drumbeat of criticism

[PEN-L:356] RE: Re: Cyber-Sawicky

1998-10-02 Thread Max Sawicky
As long as the big, bad State has the power to tax anything it wants, it can finance anything it wants by taxing. Once again, Max, you are absolutely right. In principle. All it would take is a political upheaval of the magnitude of, say, a socialist revolution to enact Max's sensible

[PEN-L:358] Re: Cyber-Sawicky

1998-10-02 Thread Tom Walker
Max wrote, Since 1984, the defense budget as a share of GDP has shrunk more than is needed to fix Social Security for 75 years. Call that an upheavel? For the third time in a row, let me repeat, Max, I AGREE with your analysis. It's not your analysis I'm disputing. It's the relevance of your

[PEN-L:360] Alan Shrugged

1998-10-02 Thread valis
Quoth Eugene Coyle: Yes Greenspan was known as an Ayn Rand fan, and we should keep reminding ourselves that he also provided a letter for Charles Keating assuring regulators that all was well with that fraud. We should also remind ourselves that Rand's literary colossi at least were producers

[PEN-L:361] Re: UNION ORGANIZER WANTED: TELECOMMUNICATIONS

1998-10-02 Thread Michael Eisenscher
[THIS FROM A FRIEND. DIRECT ALL INQUIRIES TO THE PHONE NUMBER BELOW, NOT TO ME.] Just got something of true interest in the mail from National Educ. Assoc. The headline reads: "NEA REpport Documents Link Between Anti-Worker and Anti-Pulic Eduction Initiatives." Story links an

[PEN-L:362] tax breaka and the Wall Street Journal

1998-10-02 Thread michael perelman
A reporter for the Wall Street Journal has posted requests for crazy taxes that have been levied over the last 1000 years. I responded that there has also been considerable craziness in tax breaks. I wonder if you might have some suggestions to pass on to the paper. -- Michael Perelman

[PEN-L:363] Follow the money (fwd)

1998-10-02 Thread michael
Forwarded message: Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 17:55:14 -0700 (PDT) To: From: Michael Eisenscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] (by way of Tom Condit [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Subject: Follow the money X-UID: 610 [THIS FROM A FRIEND. DIRECT ALL INQUIRIES

[PEN-L:355] RE: Re: RE: Re: Cyber-Sawicky

1998-10-02 Thread Max Sawicky
Max Sawicky: If the real capital stock and labor force grow moderately, the numbers say the output will be there. That's a big "if" based on the numbers contained in Harry Shutt's "The Trouble With Capitalism", Zed Books, 1998, p. 38. Louis, the predicted shortfall (which opens up in 2032) is

[PEN-L:357] Louis on cyber-Max and cyber-Dennis

1998-10-02 Thread James Devine
(Though this is a pen-l discussion, I'll send it to lbo-talk. I'm below quota today.) Now that it's settled that Max Sawicky and Louis Proyect are not the same person, we can examine a debate between them. Or to keep it simple, let's simply look at what Louis

[PEN-L:352] Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Cyber-SawickyON.EDU

1998-10-02 Thread Louis Proyect
Dennis Redmond: Ah, but it could indeed -- but it would mean raising effective *global* demand -- the Seventies slowdown was a result of that first great wave of globalization, otherwise known as the Sixties; investment in East Asian sweatshops and military-run Brazil boomed, but net demand

[PEN-L:359] The prosperous live longer

1998-10-02 Thread Frank Durgin
WSWS : News Analysis : North America US Department of Health and Human Services report The prosperous live longer By Debra Watson 2 October, 1998 Income inequality has created a