[PEN-L:3944] Re: Re: subsumption questions, round 2

1999-02-28 Thread Rob Schaap
I like your hypothesis, Tom, and am only answering because I can't bear the thought of my favourite reverend feeling his formidable research and finely-tuned rhetoric are going unheeded by the congregation. The bit that struck me was Rae's impressive 'productivity paradox' (and what's this busine

[PEN-L:3943] Re: Say it ain't so, Max

1999-02-28 Thread Rob Schaap
G'day Penners, Uchitelle's argument seems clear-cut to this econo-ignoramus. If 0.01% of the population receive 18.1% of the pie (up 3.5% in three years, btw), they pay 37% of income tax. If the top 0.01% had not got richer over the last three years (cashed-in stock options being taxable as inc

[PEN-L:3963] Re: Re: Say it ain't so, Max

1999-02-28 Thread MScoleman
In a message dated 99-02-28 20:04:47 EST, Jim Devine says: << a recession would also end the surplus (raise the deficit) by lowering tax revenues and raising transfer payments. >> Well, yes a recession would lower tax revenues but with the new workfare laws in all the states would it really

[PEN-L:3961] Re: Postmodernist Marxism

1999-02-28 Thread Doug Henwood
Louis Proyect wrote: >Nobody in the organized Marxist movement in the US had a clue that these >fights were going on. Oh and they were doing swimmingly well here in the U.S. in the mid- and late-70s too, weren't they? When was it the SWP was sending people into factories, and denouncing computer

[PEN-L:3962] Re: Say it ain't so, Max

1999-02-28 Thread Jim Devine
At 09:59 PM 2/27/99 -0800, Michael wrote: >Some time ago, I asked Max S. to what extent the surplus depended on >capital gains in the stock market. He dismissed my concern. I would say that what's more important is the interest rate (and inversely, the price of bonds). If the interest rate goes

[PEN-L:3960] Schumpeter and Creative Destruction

1999-02-28 Thread Henry C.K. Liu
Note: some of the ideas in this post have been absorbed from my various readings on the subject over time and retrieved from my folder under S. Not being an academic economists, I apologize for not providing a detailed bibliography and notes. Schumpeter has been dead for 49 years, his ideas are r

[PEN-L:3959] Re: anthro. sources

1999-02-28 Thread Mathew Forstater
Tom and Mike- Roseberry was in the anthropology dept at the Graduate Faculty of the New School, unless that has changed. Mat

[PEN-L:3958] Schumpeter and Creative Destruction

1999-02-28 Thread Henry C.K. Liu
Note: some of the ideas in this post have been absorbed from my various readings on the subject over time and retrieved from my folder under S. Not being an academic economists, I apologize for not providing a detailed bibliography and notes. Schumpeter has been dead for 49 years, his ideas are r

[PEN-L:3957] Postmodernist Marxism

1999-02-28 Thread Louis Proyect
maggie coleman: >world is not going to be saved by one man, even Louis Proyect. And that is >the essence of what I read from your comments -- Karl Marx the individual man >spent HIS life trying to preach to the dense and uneducated and Louis Proyect >is now spending HIS life preaching to the den

[PEN-L:3956] RE: getting out of hand

1999-02-28 Thread Max Sawicky
> Max Sawicky wrote: > > >Deficit/debt hawks like to discount the probability of > >surpluses with assorted canards[...] > > Such canards as: over the last 130 years, there's only one historical > instance of U.S. running substantial surpluses (defined as >1% of GDP) for > three consecutive years,

[PEN-L:3954] Re: Re: Re: Re: Alabama -- fwd article

1999-02-28 Thread MScoleman
In a message dated 99-02-25 12:15:08 EST, you write: << The following is as unfair as is Wojtek's above, but my friends and I who took basic training at Lackland Air Force Base and pre-lang training at Brooks AFB, after going into San Antonio a number of times, reached the conclusion that the

[PEN-L:3953] Re: Re: Re: Alabama -- fwd article

1999-02-28 Thread MScoleman
In a message dated 99-02-25 11:28:35 EST, you write: << What's wrong with that? This is what those southern hicks, who now control the government in Washington, have been always doing. Rather than changing their ways, we should seal the border along the Susquehanna River (aka the Mason-Dixon

[PEN-L:3951] getting out of hand

1999-02-28 Thread Doug Henwood
Max Sawicky wrote: >Deficit/debt hawks like to discount the probability of >surpluses with assorted canards[...] Such canards as: over the last 130 years, there's only one historical instance of U.S. running substantial surpluses (defined as >1% of GDP) for three consecutive years, and just two

[PEN-L:3952] Re: Postmodernist Marxism

1999-02-28 Thread MScoleman
In a message dated 99-02-24 09:15:52 EST, Louis Proyect writes (this is a partial quote from a longer missive): << We are in many ways in a situation like the one that preceded WWI, including the Balkans as a hot spot. I view the current world situation as extremely dangerous. I am positive tha

[PEN-L:3949] RE: Re: Say it ain't so, Max

1999-02-28 Thread Max Sawicky
Something's screwy with my e-mail so if my responses are slow in coming I plead victimization by unseen forces. > >I rely on Max for such information. Could he be wrong? Impossible... Actually I've been meaning to post an update to my response, based on the CBO stuff Doug has described below.

[PEN-L:3948] Re: Say it ain't so, Max

1999-02-28 Thread Doug Henwood
Michael Perelman wrote: >Some time ago, I asked Max S. to what extent the surplus depended on >capital gains in the stock market. He dismissed my concern. > >I just looked at Uchitelle's article in Sunday's times. He says, >"Bluntly put, if stock prices fall sharply, the budget surplus >disappe

[PEN-L:3947] A "volcano of pain"

1999-02-28 Thread Louis Proyect
NY Times, February 28, 1999 Feminist Propels Outcry at Brutal Mexico Killings By SAM DILLON CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico -- Within hours after youths passing by a Juarez drainage canal on a recent day discovered the body of a 13-year-old girl, the most recent victim in a long series of sexual killings

[PEN-L:3955] Marx and technical change

1999-02-28 Thread Michael Perelman
Brad De Long wrote: > > Karl Marx's answer would be that it was because of capitalism--that under > no previously-existing mode of production had society provided sufficient > incentives for either capital accumulation or technological advance... Nope. Marx said that *early* capitalism was eff

[PEN-L:3945] Eric Wolf

1999-02-28 Thread Louis Proyect
Tom Kruse: >Another must read for ANY student of capitalism, history, anthropology >(etc.) is Eric Wolf's _Europe and the People Without History. This reminds me to mention Wolf has a brand-new book out. Titled "Envisioning Power", it is a comparative study of Kwakiutl, Aztec and Nazi society f

[PEN-L:3946] Re: The Vietnam War Era and the Sixties

1999-02-28 Thread William S. Lear
One more book not to forget: Doug Dowd *Blues for America* --- very readable. Bill

[PEN-L:3950] Re: Re: Creeping repression

1999-02-28 Thread Brad De Long
>Gene's post about time is important because the Dallas Fed approach >represents such a common gloss. Manufactured goods generally costs less >than they did a half century ago. Is that because of capitalism or >technological advances? Karl Marx's answer would be that it was because of capitalis

[PEN-L:3932] Re: Re: subsumption questions, round 2

1999-02-28 Thread rc-am
hi tom, >My view is that one has to go beyond the distinction between formal and real >subsumption for the answer. I would argue that Marx already did go one step >beyond that distinction in the published text of Capital, describing a third >'moment' of subsumption, one that I would call social

[PEN-L:3941] oops, sorry

1999-02-28 Thread Tom Kruse
Dear PEN-L: I just sent a note to the whole list that was meant for Mike Yates. Apologies. Tom Tom Kruse Casilla 5812 / Cochabamba, Bolivia Tel/Fax: (591-4) 248242, 500849 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[PEN-L:3940] anthro. sources

1999-02-28 Thread Tom Kruse
--=_920193057==_ Dear Mike: You sent a note a bit ago asking for references on labor, anthropology and the global economy. Here's my short list. A good, grounded primer on innovation in social analysis from anthro/cultural studies is Renato Rosaldo's Culture and Truth. For