At 16:26 08/05/00 -0700, you wrote:
At 12:09 AM 5/9/00 +0100, you wrote:
The left has fallen into the trap of thinking that it should not
criticise this Russian regime too much, for fear of appearing to ally
with its own ruling class.
I don't know about that. I, for one, likened Putin's rise
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BLS DAILY REPORT, MONDAY, MAY 8, 2000
__The U.S. unemployment rate fell to 3.9 percent in April, the lowest
recorded since January 1970, BLS reports. Nonfarm payroll growth was also
robust in April, rising by 340,000, although temporary hiring by the Census
Bureau added about 73,000 workers to
Michael Perelman wrote:
Doug, what you say bears some resemblance to the reports that people
gave about
the girls who worked in the Lowell textile mills. They were
younger, single and
had no responsibilities. The horror stories that I hear relate to the young
girls that have
Chris B. writes:
Perhaps we can learn.
Russia could be very interesting, a laboratory on the interface between
capitalism and socialism. Where the high tide of capitalism reaches may
define the chances of recouping anything for socialism.
There are millions in Russia who value aspects of
Doug:
A friend of mine who spent 2 years as a wire service reporter in Vietnam -
she opened Dow Jones's Hanoi bureau - said...
(clip)
A year or so ago I talked with an American who'd been trying to do
some union organizing in the Mexican maquiladoras.
(clip)
Some folks may remember Zeynep,
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Louis Proyect wrote:
Naw, that ain't the problem. It's just that you rely on anecdotal testimony
when something like Mine Doyran's analysis is required.
Hmm, in journalism we call those interviews. But on scholarly
matters, of course I defer to you.
Doug
Hmm, in journalism we call those interviews. But on scholarly
matters, of course I defer to you.
Doug
Why, thank you. And when it comes to journalism, I defer to you.
Louis Proyect
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Doug wrote:
And to anyone who might feel inclined to call me an apologist for
imperialism, I'd say that this is a pretty classically Marxist view
of capitalism.
Doug
"The process of capitalist development, nationally and globally has always
been complex, improving the material standards of
At 12:11 PM 5/9/00 -0400, you wrote:
Hmm, in journalism we call those interviews. But on scholarly
matters, of course I defer to you.
Doug
Why, thank you. And when it comes to journalism, I defer to you.
after you, my dear Alphonse.
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Again, let me return to the Lowell analogy. Wages might be enough to give a
young, single woman a better standard of living then she could have on the farm,
but not enough to support many children. A good number of the horror stories
concern women with children.
Also, I'm not defending a
Charles Brown wrote:
CB: It is the classically Marxist view of capitalism as far as you
take it. But the classically Marxist view of capitalism goes beyond
seeing the life of a proletarian as an improvement over the life of
a peasant , in general, to the position that capitalism must be
Michael P. writes:
Again, let me return to the Lowell analogy. Wages might be enough to give
a young, single woman a better standard of living then she could have on
the farm, but not enough to support many children. A good number of the
horror stories concern women with children.
wait a minnute! okey.. I will be kind.. Louis said what needs to be
said, but let me reiterate. Doug, first, I am a Marxist feminist and I
COMDEMNED in my post both local and foreign capitalists who
exploit women. excuse me, but you have provided no empirical evidence,
besides your friend's
Wait a second. I didn't know this at all. My understanding of socialism is
that we'd all go live in the country and make our own clothes from hemp
fiber, eat tofu, shoot squirrels with bows and arrows and walk around buck
naked.
Charles Brown wrote:
CB: It is the classically Marxist view of
Jim Devine wrote:
Sweatshops, like traditional peasant agriculture (and the vast majority of
pre-capitalist modes of production), are very patriarchal. And
paternalistic. The freedom of the women at Lowell was highly restricted.
They were not that different from indentured servants, though
Hey I didn't know that John Zerzan was on this list... ; )
At 01:12 PM 5/9/00 -0400, you wrote:
Wait a second. I didn't know this at all. My understanding of socialism is
that we'd all go live in the country and make our own clothes from hemp
fiber, eat tofu, shoot squirrels with bows and
Why would we make clothes if we are going to walk around naked?
Louis Proyect wrote:
Wait a second. I didn't know this at all. My understanding of socialism is
that we'd all go live in the country and make our own clothes from hemp
fiber, eat tofu, shoot squirrels with bows and arrows and
Clothes? We will clothes under socialism? Count me out. --jks
In a message dated Tue, 9 May 2000 1:16:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Louis Proyect
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Wait a second. I didn't know this at all. My understanding of socialism is
that we'd all go live in the country and make
Chris Burford [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/06/00 03:36AM In terms of the "economic
doctrine" I have a reservation about saying
The doctrine of surplus-value is the corner-stone of Marx's economic
theory.
This was one of Marx's specific additions to classical economics, but the
fact that
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At 10:39 AM 5/9/00 -0700, you wrote:
Why would we make clothes if we are going to walk around naked?
Pish-posh. Clearly you haven't read Stalin's lectures on dialectical
materialism, especially the third which deals with the negation of a negation.
Louis Proyect
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Dear Pen-l,
I am often impressed by some of the thoughtful discussions that take place
here. I would like to get some of your opinions on a fascinating issue. I
have just finished reading Randall Robinson's "The Debt: What America Owes
to Blacks" and am left with mixed feelings. He reminds
Doug Henwood wrote:
Look, I agree it's no bowl of cherries. But there is a tendency among
Western liberals and leftists to romanticize peasant life.
Just a few thoughts on this thread.
There isn't much peasant life left anymore anywhere. Is that a good
thing? After the rev. in
Vietnam
Michael Perelman wrote:
Again, let me return to the Lowell analogy. Wages might be enough to give a
young, single woman a better standard of living then she could have
on the farm,
but not enough to support many children. A good number of the horror stories
concern women with children.
Also,
actually, it would provide some more flexibility in this hot weather
(geeezz..)
Once, my canadian turkish friend told me that it was okey for women to
walk half naked on the streets of Toronto. I remember he was serious
about this issue, but I don't know if this "actually" happened or not.
What
Mine wrote:
Besides the problems with the article (which i have not read in details),
the fact that Indians make "commercial movies" should not lead you to
normalize the brutality of western imperialism and epidemic violence done
to third world people. did you ever attempt to think why Indian
Ricardo, you keep skating close to the edge. You say that you do not intend
to provoke, but you seem to poke and poke -- maybe just to get a reaction. We
do not need that here.
Ricardo Duchesne wrote:
Now you are getting high on pity which is another trait of
third worldists who think that
Ultimately, I think that the end of capitalism is probably a necessary
though not sufficient condition for true Black liberation. But in the
meantime, my policy approach to addressing Black poverty would combine the
following:
1) reparations
2) affirmative action
3) guaranteed jobs/living
I did read the section on virtual materialism -- is that to which you refer?
Gene Coyle
Louis Proyect wrote:
At 10:39 AM 5/9/00 -0700, you wrote:
Why would we make clothes if we are going to walk around naked?
Pish-posh. Clearly you haven't read Stalin's lectures on dialectical
At 19:06 09/05/00 +, you wrote:
Dear Pen-l,
I am often impressed by some of the thoughtful discussions that take place
here. I would like to get some of your opinions on a fascinating issue. I
have just finished reading Randall Robinson's "The Debt: What America Owes
to Blacks" and am
I want to amplify on some of Sam Pawlett's comments. Vietnam, to remind
youngsters on the list, had a proletarian revolution in the 1970s that like
China was largely led by peasants. Peasant support was tied to the
cooperatives that provided a form of social insurance and security in the
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Louis Proyect wrote:
Students are organizing against sweatshop conditions. If Marxists think
that they are some kind of evolutionary step upward from 'rural idiocy' and
patriarchy, then we will be ignored by these students.
Take another look. THat's what I said. That is, from the
(New York City has just declared an Environmental Emergency. It has been
over 96 degrees for the past 3 days and there are deep worries about a
blackout. My building has shut down half the elevators and urged tenants to
keep electricity use to a minimum. The heat wave has thrown maintenance for
a
Late one night in the early 1960s, I turned on Henry Cowell's weekly
ethnomusicology radio show on WBAI, (the local affiliate of the radical
Pacifica network) and heard some of the most electrifying music I have
heard in my life. To this day, the sounds echo in my mind. Cowell, who was
playing
On Tue, 9 May 2000, Louis Proyect wrote:
About 4 million hectares of land were scheduled for reallocation after
1988. After the transition, the social bonds in the countryside were
profoundly shattered. The basic structure of the nation was placed under
severe stress and dispossessed
Dennis Redmond:
But how do explain the fact that living standards have risen dramatically
in the countryside side during doi moi?
The Baltimore Sun, August 6, 1995:
[W]alking through Huong Tho Phu village in southern Vietnam, you can easily
see why the south dominates the national economy. The
In a message dated 00-05-08 18:36:14 EDT, you write:
No more unknown governors from small southern states...
What about relatively well known ex-Senators from small Southern states,
Brad? --jks
Better than unknown governors from *large* southern states...
Brad DeLong
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