Re: the debate

2000-10-04 Thread Ellen Frank
My 12 year old daughter had to watch the debate as part of her social studies homework. She said that, whereas Bush acted as if he thought Gore was an asshole; Gore acted as if he thought the public were assholes. Ellen Frank

RE: Debates

2000-10-04 Thread Ellen Frank
I didn't watch the debate myself. Didn't want to spoil the high I was riding on since Sunday when Ralph Nader, on a shoe-string budget and with virtually no advance publicity, filled the Boston Garden (he refuses to call it the Fleet Center). 12,000 people, mostly under 30, rousing speeches,

Prez Debates - Round 1

2000-10-04 Thread Mikalac Norman S NSSC
IMO, Gore 9, Bush 1 (sympathy). Gore in command of the issues and the facts. Bush looked supremely ignorant and downright dumb. had absolutely no logical or factual rejoiners. used a few one-liners that fell flat. looked uncomfortable. didn't use any of the natural charm he has. i felt

Thousands protest debate

2000-10-04 Thread Louis Proyect
Thousands protest presidential debate - - - - - - - - - - - - By STEVE LeBLANC (salon.com) Oct. 3, 2000 | BOSTON (AP) -- Thousands of protesters gathered before the presidential debate Tuesday, championing issues from campaign finance reform to the right of third-party candidates to be

debate

2000-10-04 Thread Jim Devine
Bush's main ideological point -- that the people can make decisions better than government bureaucrats -- was never answered by Gore. Gore could have answered in two ways: (1) that when Bush talks about "the people", he's talking about the rich, since these are the folks who would get the

BLS Daily Report

2000-10-04 Thread Richardson_D
BLS DAILY REPORT, TUESDAY, OCTOBER 3, 2000 Higher interest rates and energy prices continued to slow manufacturing activity for September, but strong growth in production and employment offset much of the sector's weakness, the National Association of Purchasing Management says. NAPM's monthly

Re: debate

2000-10-04 Thread Jim Devine
also, did anyone notice that Gore was more hawkish -- more willing to send US troops overseas -- than Bush, while of course the latter is willing to defend "our" oil to the death. Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine

RE: debate

2000-10-04 Thread Mikalac Norman S NSSC
Bush's main ideological point -- that the people can make decisions better than government bureaucrats -- was never answered by Gore. Gore could have answered in two ways: (1) that when Bush talks about "the people", he's talking about the rich, since these are the folks who would get the

Re: RE: Re: RE: saving and aggregate demand

2000-10-04 Thread Ellen Frank
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I couldn't open this file. Please resend. And I'm not sure you're a liberal. You show some radical tendencies. Hey Max. Yeah, well I try to pass sometimes. Though I gotta say, liberals are a tough lot to fool. Generally they hate radicals more than they hate

Re: debate

2000-10-04 Thread Michael Perelman
Can you imagine how much better the debate would have been with someone like Nader who could cut through such slogans? Jim Devine wrote: Bush's main ideological point -- that the people can make decisions better than government bureaucrats -- was never answered by Gore. Gore could have

Re: Re: The best labor power to exploit

2000-10-04 Thread Michael Perelman
I thought that we discussed this before. The key is that, except for the Y2K hype period when business needed experienced COBOL programmers, older programmers have difficult finding jobs. Younger people are in demand. They can be manipulated to work longer hours and require less money. The

Book Announcement: Taming Global Financial Flows

2000-10-04 Thread Kavaljit Singh
** Apologies for Cross Posting ** BOOK ANNOUNCEMENT TITLE: TAMING GLOBAL FINANCIAL FLOWSChallenges and Alternatives in the Era of Financial Globalization: A Citizen's Guide AUTHOR: Kavaljit Singh PUBLISHERS: - Hong Kong University Press, Hong Kong - IBON Foundation Inc, Manila - Madhyam

Re: Re: debate

2000-10-04 Thread Jim Devine
At 08:36 AM 10/4/00 -0700, you wrote: Can you imagine how much better the debate would have been with someone like Nader who could cut through such slogans? according to SLATE: The [Washington Post] early edition reports that Ralph Nader had a ticket to the debate but doesn't say what happened.

RE: debate

2000-10-04 Thread Max Sawicky
JD: Bush's main ideological point -- that the people can make decisions better than government bureaucrats -- was never answered by Gore. Gore could have answered in two ways: . . . It is distressing to see 'liberal' being redefined by Gore in terms of targeted tax relief, while 'conservative'

Re: Re: Re: The best labor power to exploit

2000-10-04 Thread Louis Proyect
Michael wrote: I thought that we discussed this before. The key is that, except for the Y2K hype period when business needed experienced COBOL programmers, older programmers have difficult finding jobs. Younger people are in demand. They can be manipulated to work longer hours and require less

query on structural inflation

2000-10-04 Thread Jim Devine
The structural view of inflation in the US suggests that once built into the normal operations of the economy, the wage-price spiral and similar inertial processes tend to persist unless there is a deep or long-lasting and thus painful recession (or successful incomes policies or similar major

Re: Re: If We Ran the Presidential Debates...

2000-10-04 Thread Doug Henwood
Jim Devine wrote: At 06:47 PM 10/03/2000 -0500, you wrote: Here are some of the tough questions we'd ask Bush and Gore. how about: if you wore corporate logos on your uniform to reflect your commercial sponsorship the way NASCAR drivers do, which corporate logo would be largest? Capital K

Re: The best labor power to exploit

2000-10-04 Thread Charles Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/03/00 06:27PM Clearly capital is slavering to exploit these lucky workers (below). But is this because in marxist terms, the rate of their exploitation is particularly high - and outweighs the cost of their wages? ((( Charles: Their status as immigrants

Pacifica crisis meeting in NYC

2000-10-04 Thread Louis Proyect
PLEASE DISTRIBUTE WIDELY New Yorkers: You are invited to a discussion about the on-going crisis at the Pacifica Radio network: Tuesday, October 10th, 6:30 p.m. at the offices of DC 1707 - 75 Varick St. - 14th floor (just north of Canal St., the A, E, C, 1 and 9 trains all stop at Canal)

Re: Re: Re: If We Ran the Presidential Debates...

2000-10-04 Thread Eugene Coyle
How about a red, white, and blue $$ over the heart? Gene Doug Henwood wrote: Jim Devine wrote: At 06:47 PM 10/03/2000 -0500, you wrote: Here are some of the tough questions we'd ask Bush and Gore. how about: if you wore corporate logos on your uniform to reflect your commercial

Fw: post-autistic economics newsletter, No. 2, October 2000

2000-10-04 Thread Arno Mong Daastoel
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Keynesian macropolicy

2000-10-04 Thread Peter Dorman
The other, underappreciated aspect of Keynesian macropolicy is that it partially frees the state from reliance on private capital investment, "business climate", etc. Peter (replying to Ellen Frank's DS article)

Eyewitness report from Boston activist

2000-10-04 Thread Louis Proyect
FYI -- Not only for its news report on the actions but for insights into the young activist generation's thinking. best, jay http://www.neravt.com/left/ Original Message Subject: Bedtime for Democracy in Boston: "A fuckin' Brawl" Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 00:44:24 -0700 From:

Re: Re: Re: debate

2000-10-04 Thread Louis Proyect
according to SLATE: The [Washington Post] early edition reports that Ralph Nader had a ticket to the debate but doesn't say what happened. The NY [Times] and LA [Times] do: He showed up at the door and was refused admittance. Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine

Re: debate

2000-10-04 Thread Joel Blau
There is also a whole other dimension here.. Bush presumes that the family is an autonomous social unit that acts but is not acted upon--a unit of production, if you will, rather than a unit of consumption. He wants to empower it by giving it more money, as if you could, through pure force of

Re: RE: debate

2000-10-04 Thread Joel Blau
Of course, it is important to note that all these funding mechanisms come in the less visible (and individual family) form of tax expenditures, rather than in either funding a whole program or providing direct aid. Joel Blau Max Sawicky wrote: JD: Bush's main ideological point -- that the

de Soto

2000-10-04 Thread Doug Henwood
I'm interviewing Hernando de Soto, the Peruvian libertarian propagandist, on the radio tomorrow. Any ideas for questions? Doug

RE: de Soto

2000-10-04 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
I'm interviewing Hernando de Soto, the Peruvian libertarian propagandist, on the radio tomorrow. Any ideas for questions? Doug +++ How many acres of trees have been exported to Japan since Fujimori's been in power? How much of Peru is owned by Japan? Does he see that as a form of

increasing inequality

2000-10-04 Thread Jim Devine
In my never-ending effort to enlighten the bored students, I decided that I needed a cool graph to illustrate the increases in income inequality in the US during the last few decades. For some reason, I couldn't find any excellent ones in my library, so I made my own. Using US Census data on

Re: Re: Re: Re: debate

2000-10-04 Thread Eugene Coyle
Do you think they had a tail on Nader through the day, so as to be able to intercept him? Gene Coyle Louis Proyect wrote: according to SLATE: The [Washington Post] early edition reports that Ralph Nader had a ticket to the debate but doesn't say what happened. The NY [Times] and LA [Times]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: saving and aggregate demand

2000-10-04 Thread Max Sawicky
Blame me. It's my fault. I thought it would be good if the Board of Governors had a solid Democrat on it who could go toe-to-toe with the model builders on the staff, and win. The higher-ups at Treasury bought the argument... I had *no* *idea* that he was going to believe in his own models

More MPRP Electoral Victories in Mongolia

2000-10-04 Thread Ken Hanly
ULAN BATOR, Oct 2 (Reuters) - Mongolia's former communist rulers won a landslide victory in local elections, two months after they swept back to power in parliamentary polls, election officials said on Monday. Preliminary results of Sunday's vote showed the Mongolian People's Revolutionary Party