RE: RE: A Clinton encounter

2001-06-10 Thread Max Sawicky
In general, convincing, but is Claire Sterling a reliable source? mbs Dear Sir, So Alan Duncan was employed by 'controversial commodities trader Marc Rich and Co' (May 20 1966)? Marc Rich is controversial in the same way Genghis Khan was controversial. According to Claire Sterling . . .

Re: Re: Childress Metric (riding the INFO-PLACEBOtime machine)

2001-06-10 Thread Doyle Saylor
Greetings Economists, Tom Walker writes, Tom Flaw in the argument is that productivity here is irrespective of the integrity of the information being processed. One uses the same formula to measure noise productivity as signal productivity. IT generates a lot of noise. It is labour intensive

RE: A Clinton encounter

2001-06-10 Thread Tom Walker
I would tend to believe the opposite of anything Claire Sterling wrote. Max Sawicky wrote, In general, convincing, but is Claire Sterling a reliable source? Tom Walker Bowen Island, BC 604 947 2213

Re: Re: Re: Re: Why is everyone afraid of the eonic effect?

2001-06-10 Thread Andrew Hagen
On Sat, 9 Jun 2001 16:25:22 -0700, Michael Perelman wrote: John, I do not see you as an enemy at all. I do not understand most of what you write, but I suspect that you are on our side most of the way. My problem has to do with your style. Rather than engage in discussions on ongoing threads,

Fw: [marxist] NATO war and pipeline

2001-06-10 Thread Michael Pugliese
- Original Message - From: John Lacny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 11:26 PM Subject: Re: [marxist] NATO war and pipeline [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's all about the transportation of massive oil resources from the Caspian Sea through the

Death of Thatcherism

2001-06-10 Thread Chris Burford
The following extract from the Washington Post and IHT puts widens the potential application of the concept of the death of Thatcherism to the USA: Chris Burford William Hague's Demise Also Marks the Death of Thatcherism Stanley B. Greenberg Saturday, June 9, 2001 . But the biggest

Re: RE: RE: A Clinton encounter

2001-06-10 Thread Michael Pugliese
Except for the Bulgarian Connection, no? M. Pugliese - Original Message - From: Mark Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 9:09 AM Subject: [PEN-L:13060] RE: RE: A Clinton encounter I would tend to believe the opposite of anything Claire

Re: the gospel of buddha

2001-06-10 Thread Andrew Hagen
The truth of religion is less important than its practical effect. When a person is unable to resist or liberation is unrealistic, then religious belief in the face of oppression can be beneficial. It acts as a salve to the psyche. For many, a few moments of deluded happiness at the end are

Re: Fw: [marxist] NATO war and pipeline

2001-06-10 Thread Louis Proyect
As for Serbia, and the statement in the article that the mass graves were never found and that the killings were about what you'd expect in a counterinsurgency war, I'm inclined to agree, and I think that the ghoulish stories that are circulating about factories being turned into makeshift

Michael Yates journal #3

2001-06-10 Thread Louis Proyect
Yellowstone journal, no. 7 June 9-10, 2001 Yellowstone Park is the first of the country’s national parks; it was designated one in 1872. The idea of national parks, however, dates from a few decades earlier. Philip Burnham, in his interesting book, Indian Country, God’s Country: Native Americans

Re: CIA, drugs, and Plan Columbia

2001-06-10 Thread Andrew Hagen
How do we know this isn't a leak by one intelligence community against another? Actually, the information isn't even that embarrassing. So what if the CIA is getting money from arms shipments? What exactly is their link to cocaine smuggling to the Middle East? Is there any link at all? Why would

The happy planet

2001-06-10 Thread Ian Murray
http://www.observer.co.uk/focus/story/0,6903,504481,00.html Recovering Earth Environmentalists said our planet was doomed to die. Now one man says they are wrong. Anthony Browne reports Special report: global warming Sunday June 10, 2001 The Observer It hardly needed explanation. 'Everyone knows

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Why is everyone afraid of the eonic effect?

2001-06-10 Thread Lastmanthere
It is a bit hard to discuss anything after being unsubscribed. I will reply with this next email address, then switch to the next in a list of fifteen, once this one burns. Moral: don't bother to unsubscribe me. It won't work. As to bandwidth, give me a break. The total is about a few K. And I

Re: Re: CIA, drugs, and Plan Columbia

2001-06-10 Thread Michael Pugliese
http://www.versobooks.com/books/cdef/cockburn_alex_whiteout.shtml Whiteout's explosive history of the CIA, drugs, and the press tells how: US intelligence agents saved America's top mobster, Lucky Luciano, from 40 years in prison and helped him build his global heroin syndicate. Klaus Barbie,

A glimpse of evolution

2001-06-10 Thread Lastmanthere
Even now, I am probably being re-unsubscribed I will slip this in at high speed. Michael, you are lucky I read two of your books. If I didn't respect your work, you would be the victim of a melted marshmallow special. A final note answering XAH, who didn't realize I couldn't reply. The study

Fwd: Exaggerated Reports of Thatcherism's Death

2001-06-10 Thread Jim Devine
forwarded from Michael Keaney --- With respect to Chris's repeated assertions that Thatcherism is dead, this line is totally misleading. Thatcherism is not dead -- it is being consolidated and deepened; it is evolving. There is a big difference between what Stanley Greenberg interprets UK voters

Report from Juan Gonzalez

2001-06-10 Thread Louis Proyect
Pacifica Campaign Release June 10, 2001 Contact: (646) 230-9588 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web site: http://www.pacificacampaign.org Listener Boycott Rocks Pacifica Radio Thousands Vote No on Network's Rightwing Corporate Drift NEW YORK (June 10) -- In an unprecedented action for U.S. radio,

Re: Re: the gospel of buddha

2001-06-10 Thread Anthony D'Costa
Here's one example of how religion can be liberating: the Dalits, untouchables in India, associated historically as well as now (mainly in rural areas/small towns) with polluting activities, such as sweepers (janitors), midwives, leather workers and cremation workers, among others. Being

Multinational Oil Corporations and US Foreign Policy

2001-06-10 Thread Michael Pugliese
http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/oil1.htm

Re: the gospel of buddha

2001-06-10 Thread Andrew Hagen
This is not an example of religion exerting a liberatory influence. I'll grant the facts as you describe them, with one addition. The Dalits were previously Hindu. Under Hinduism, they were systematically oppressed. As you mention, when they switched religions, they gained some measure of

Re: CIA, drugs, and Plan Columbia

2001-06-10 Thread Andrew Hagen
The basic points remain that (1) we should carefully document and consider our allegations against intelligence services, because unfounded charges won't lead to change, and, particularly, that (2) there is no hard evidence of a CIA scheme to flood the Middle East with cocaine. Andrew Hagen

Re: Re: CIA, drugs, and Plan Columbia

2001-06-10 Thread Michael Pugliese
I subscribe to the softer version of the conspiracy theory, esp. as regards the Afghans (CIATaliban support to kick out the Soviets) and the Golden Triangle (Khun Sa esp. see the Alfred McCoy classic, reissued by Lawrence Hill Press on Heroin and the Indochina wars. Simply stated: Guns and drug

Re: The happy planet

2001-06-10 Thread Andrew Hagen
The report seems to suggest that environmentalism has succeeded in protecting the Earth. Thus, we should drop environmentalism. The Earth is doing better than thought, thanks to conservation. Even if true, however, this success does not justify a halt in ecological protection. Victory in a few

Re: Botswana? No thanks...

2001-06-10 Thread Michael Pollak
On Sun, 13 May 2001, Brad DeLong wrote: But the overall record in terms of improvements in material welfare is astonishing. (Although, alas, Botswana is about to be hit very hard by the AIDS crisis.) Perhaps there is more hope than at first appears? May 8, 2001 Free AIDS Care Brings Hope

Re: Re: The happy planet

2001-06-10 Thread Michael Perelman
You can be sure that the state of groundwater is deteriorating rapidly. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Answering messages on pen-l.

2001-06-10 Thread Michael Perelman
Responding to long posts. I should be careful about choosing this particular note, especially after denouncing Jim a couple of days ago, but it is a useful example. Michael K. wrote a long note about Thatcherism. Jim responded, placing his comment at the end. Two suggestions. 1. If you can,

Re: Fw: [marxist] Schedule - SOLIDARITY SUMMER SCHOOL 2001

2001-06-10 Thread Justin Schwartz
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RE: RE: A Clinton encounter

2001-06-10 Thread Mark Jones
I would tend to believe the opposite of anything Claire Sterling wrote. You'd be wrong.

RE: A Clinton encounter

2001-06-10 Thread Mark Jones
Marc Rich is one og the greatest criminals of the age. Here are 2 samples. 1. In 1996 I wrote to The Guardian as follows. The Alan Duncan I mention later became a Tory MP, close adviser to the now-defunct William Hague, and yesterday was interviwed widely on British TV for his thoughts on how to