Re: Re: Re: query on US dollar

2001-06-11 Thread Rob Schaap
G'day Jim et al, > that works, assuming that the U.S. can continue to accumulate> external debt >with no negative consequences (like a move away from > the US$ as the main reserve >currency). But was it the U.S. intent? >From the administration's point of view, it may be that negativ

Re: Fwd: Exaggerated Reports of Thatcherism's Death

2001-06-11 Thread Chris Burford
I was not quite sure what Jim meant in his covering note about Son of Bakunin? But my comment on Michael's post would be this: It is important that the correct points Michael makes and the correct points I make, do not get lost in a semantic confusion. Yes it is true that the New Labour governm

Funny. Eh!

2001-06-11 Thread Ken Hanly
The Boston Globe June 10, 2001 Canadian TV show puts one over on U.S. BY COLIN NICKERSON MONTREAL -- So, did you hear that Canada is finally granting the vote to citizens of Irish ancestry? And that diabetics in this realm of permafrost and muskeg bog can take heart that legalization of insu

EU labor law update

2001-06-11 Thread Ian Murray
Monday, June 11, 2001 EU Approves Rules on Worker Consultations to Supply More Information to Employees By PAUL AMES Associated Press Writer LUXEMBOURG (AP) _ European Union ministers agreed Monday on rules that will oblige businesses across the 15-nation bloc to supply more information to their

Fw; : [RWWATCH] Strange Bedfellows: Republican Donors fund DLC meeting

2001-06-11 Thread Michael Pugliese
More on Koch here, http://www.potomac-inc.org/seduclft.html M.Pugliese - Original Message - From: "Rich Cowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 7:05 PM Subject: [RWWATCH] Strange Bedfellows: Republican Donors fund DLC meeting RWWATCH - June 11, 2

Re:Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: the gospel of buddha

2001-06-11 Thread Michael Pugliese
The Religions of the Oppressed. http://www.csp.org/chrestomathy/religions_of.html Lanternari, Vittorio. (1963). New York: Alfred A. Knopf. Note: Originally published as Movimenti religiosi di liberta e di salvezza dei popoli oppressi by Giangiacomo Feltrinelli Editore, translated by Lisa Sergio.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: the gospel of buddha

2001-06-11 Thread Michael Pugliese
And some start out progressive and move rightward. The Pentacostals in the 20's had integrated congregrations, and starting in the 30's divided into white and black denominations. For an examination, more generally on right-wing Protestantism, see David Stoll, "Is Latin America Turning Prote

Re: Re: Re: Re: the gospel of buddha

2001-06-11 Thread Ken Hanly
There are certainly some religious trends that are progressive, liberation theology and the social gospel movement come to mind. Often these trends come into conflict with mainstream religion leading to crackdowns or expulsion of pro-worker people from the Church and even the formation of Labor C

Containing reparations rhetoric

2001-06-11 Thread Ian Murray
[From The Independent] Mbeki to be warned off slavery reparations By Alex Duval Smith Africa Correspondent 12 June 2001 Former colonial powers will acknowledge past sins of slavery and exploitation at a world conference on racism in South Africa later this year. But President Thabo Mbeki, visit

Predicting unpredictability and the precautionary principle

2001-06-11 Thread Ian Murray
[NYT] June 12, 2001 Warming Threat Requires Action Now, Scientists Say By ANDREW C. REVKIN In his speech on climate yesterday, President Bush said that a basic problem with the Kyoto Protocol, the proposed international pact for curtailing global warming, was that it laid out a timetable for cutt

URPE summer conference

2001-06-11 Thread Michael Perelman
Dear URPE member, As all of you know, our annual summer conference August 18 - 21 is coming up soon. A preliminary schedule for this conference can be seen on the URPE web page, www.urpe.org. One of the things that the summer conference has alwaysprovided is a great opportunity for informally pr

Re: Re: Re: Re: economics as religion

2001-06-11 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: "Michael Perelman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Here is a slightly different variant. > > Ekelund, Robert B., Jr, Robert F. Hebert and Robert D. Tollison. 1989. > "An Economic Model of the Medieval Church: Usury as a Form of Rent > Seeking." Journal of Law, Economics

Re: Re: economics as religion

2001-06-11 Thread William S. Lear
On Monday, June 11, 2001 at 15:01:56 (-0700) Tim Bousquet writes: >I'ver been working on an article for sometime about >the religion of the market. Thomas Frank, of Babbler >Magazine, sort of beat me to the punch with his "One >Market Under God," but there's still a lot to be said. >Ken Lay is exa

The Klepbsiella planticola controversy

2001-06-11 Thread Louis Proyect
The AGRIBUSINESS EXAMINER Monitoring Corporate Agribusiness From a Public Interest Perspective A.V. Krebs Editor\Publisher Issue #119 June 11, 2001 COMMENTARY: SEARCHING FOR A FAIR RESOLUTION CONCERNING CONTROVERSIAL STORY ON POSSIBLE EFFECTS OF KLEBSIELLA P ON THE ENVIRONMENT One of life

Re: Re: economics as religion

2001-06-11 Thread Louis Proyect
June Nash, "We Eat the Mines and the Mines Eat Us" Emile Zola, "Germinal" Marshall Sahlins, "Stone Age Economics" Harry Braverman, "Labor and Monopoly Capital" David Noble, "Forces of Production" At 02:52 PM 6/11/01 -0700, you wrote: >Could anyone offer a good book that deals with microeconomic

Budget Factoids

2001-06-11 Thread Max Sawicky
(Source: Congressional Budget Office letter to Sen. Domenici, June 6, 2001.) Projected FY2002 baseline surplus as of January of this year: $313b Projected FY2002 baseline surplus as of May of this year: $304b Axe to grind: economic downturn has negligible effect, contrary to certain prophets

Re: Re: Re: economics as religion

2001-06-11 Thread Michael Perelman
Some people from Auburn have written some nice stuff against the Catholic church, describing the struggles of the reformation, as an attempt to break the Catholic's monopoly on the "market for salvation." Here is a slightly different variant. Ekelund, Robert B., Jr, Robert F. Hebert and Robert

Re: economics as religion

2001-06-11 Thread Michael Perelman
The reviewer, Timur Kuran, has also writen on the subject. On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 02:37:00PM -0700, Jim Devine wrote: > Economics as Religion > From Samuelson to Chicago and Beyond > Robert H. Nelson > Spring 2001 | 392 pgs | 6 x 9 > > An insightful exploration of the powerful role that econom

RE: Re: economics as religion

2001-06-11 Thread Max Sawicky
Kenneth Boulding. The Economy of Love and Fear. mbs Could anyone offer a good book that deals with microeconomic behaviour say of individuals to noneconomic wants (religion, group solidarity, and the like)? I would prefer a less technical/modelling approach and more of a truly interdisciplinar

Re: Re: economics as religion

2001-06-11 Thread Jim Devine
Harvey Cox had an article titled "The Market as God" in the ATLANTIC MONTHLY. I don't know the date. At 03:01 PM 6/11/01 -0700, you wrote: >I'ver been working on an article for sometime about >the religion of the market. Thomas Frank, of Babbler >Magazine, sort of beat me to the punch with his "

Re: economics as religion

2001-06-11 Thread Tim Bousquet
I'ver been working on an article for sometime about the religion of the market. Thomas Frank, of Babbler Magazine, sort of beat me to the punch with his "One Market Under God," but there's still a lot to be said. Ken Lay is example #1, I think: a right-wing Christian who goes around endowing chair

RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: the gospel of buddha

2001-06-11 Thread michael pugliese
At a "dumb" terinal , no windows so can't cut and paste the excerpt on the web.) The book published originally by the Italian leftist publisher, G. Feltrinelli, by Vittorio Lanternari, "Religions of the Oppressed, " from the early 60's, is a useful text. Go to Google type in 'religions of the

Re: economics as religion

2001-06-11 Thread Anthony DCosta
Could anyone offer a good book that deals with microeconomic behaviour say of individuals to noneconomic wants (religion, group solidarity, and the like)? I would prefer a less technical/modelling approach and more of a truly interdisciplinary treatment, bringing to bear insights from anthropolog

economics as religion

2001-06-11 Thread Jim Devine
Economics as Religion From Samuelson to Chicago and Beyond Robert H. Nelson Spring 2001 | 392 pgs | 6 x 9 An insightful exploration of the powerful role that economic belief plays in our modern society as a secular religion that serves many of the same functions as early Christian and other re

RE: Re: RE:The happy planet

2001-06-11 Thread michael pugliese
Some of the embedded URL's in the fwded. post of mine on the 8th with the subject line Fw: Re; Ghana, Water Privatization, might be helpful. As well as the organization of Jim ? in Bolivia (?) or that alerted all of us to the Bechtel H2O privatization some months back. Michael Pugliese >From:

Re: Re: Re: Re: the gospel of buddha

2001-06-11 Thread Michael Perelman
Didn't he say that the religion cut both ways -- sort of like Genovese on Black churches under slavery. The workers adopted Methodist-like methods of organization, but religion dampened revolutionary zeal Its been several decades since I read it, but I still have a vivid memory of the worker on

Re: GM corn and the Monarch Butterfly

2001-06-11 Thread Margaret Coleman
Early studies of the Monarch have proven no immediate effect, but if US companies begin peddling some of these new seeds around the world to poor countries -- their intent from what I understand -- we are likely to see ecological effects which we do not well understand at this point, In short, th

Re: Report on US welfare "reform"

2001-06-11 Thread Margaret Coleman
Interesting report Ken, but I can't say I'm surprised. Heather Boushey and Betheny Gundersen, at EPI, have just produced a paper which focusses on hardships welfare leavers face. A huge percent of leavers have to choose between basic necessities on a regular basis: food, shelter, medical care or

RE: Re: RE: question regarding reagan tax cuts...

2001-06-11 Thread Max Sawicky
I'll give them an ounce. But see Mike Meeropol's EPI issue brief on this, comparing Reagan '81 to Gerry Ford '75. mbs At 02:25 PM 6/11/01 +0100, you wrote: >The Reagan cuts were in passed in 1981, at the very start >of the recovery from '80 and '81 recessions. Because >Reagan's term began

GNP and HDI: potentially misleading

2001-06-11 Thread Louis Proyect
BBC News Online, Friday, 8 June, 2001, 07:11 GMT 08:11 UK http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/business/newsid_1375000/1375307.stm World sinks into deeper poverty The world's poor may be sinking deeper into poverty, according to a new report by a top economics professor that turns traditional insi

Re: RE:The happy planet

2001-06-11 Thread Louis Proyect
>Thanks for this. Do we have any easily accessible sources on industrial or >other pollutant contamination of potable water supplies in poorer societies? >I know water is a problem in S Africa, from discussion by Pat Bond and >others on the Debate list, but how general is the problem in the >perip

Re: RE: question regarding reagan tax cuts...

2001-06-11 Thread Jim Devine
At 02:25 PM 6/11/01 +0100, you wrote: >The Reagan cuts were in passed in 1981, at the very start >of the recovery from '80 and '81 recessions. Because >Reagan's term began at the bottom of the business cycle, >his supporters like to attribute all subsequent good >economic news to the '81 tax cuts

BLS Daily Report

2001-06-11 Thread Richardson_D
> BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS DAILY REPORT, MONDAY, JUNE 11, 2001: > > The job market is less than rosy, we hear from BLS economist Philip Rones. > Signs of the worsening economy: The unemployment rate is the highest it > has been since late 1998...employment has fallen 2 months in a row for the

RE: Re: (Fwd) CUBANALYSIS

2001-06-11 Thread Max Sawicky
The percentage of aging in the population is an empty figure unless accompanied by figures on the percentage of children and adolescents in the population. If the latter decreases, then the proportion of non-workers remains constant. If the latter also increases, then what? In any case, isolated p

Re: Re: query on US dollar

2001-06-11 Thread Jim Devine
I asked: > > does anyone know _why_ the U.S. -- which must refer not only to the > administration but to the Fed -- was pursuing a "high dollar" policy?< Rob writes: >... (1) it helped keep [non-US$] economies on the brink from folding, by >offering a market (we're talking international crisis

RE: question regarding reagan tax cuts...

2001-06-11 Thread Max Sawicky
Unless there's a recession or near zero economic growth, tax revenue is likely to go up. The question re: Reagan was whether revenue was higher than it would have been with no tax cuts. If so, the tax cut would have 'paid for itself.' The consensus is it didn't (see The Tax Decade, C. Eugene St

Re: query on US dollar

2001-06-11 Thread Rob Schaap
Jim Devine wrote: > > in his ECONOMIC REPORTING REVIEW, Dean Baker writes: > >It is worth noting that the dollar has risen in value by 20-30 > percent > >against other major currencies since 1996. This increase in the > dollar's > >value was in part a result of a deliberate "high dollar" policy o

Re: stock market query

2001-06-11 Thread Timework Web
Maybe a better name for a spread-sheet would be a fiddle-sheet. Jim Devine wrote, > I was fiddling around with my spread-sheet this morning. . . Tom Walker (604) 947-2213

For Us, Voltaire.... (was the gospel of buddha)

2001-06-11 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
>But surely religious beliefs are often part and parcel of the ruling class >ideology. Believing that this life is not important but only life after >death, that the poor shall inherit the earth, that the poor are blessed, >that the rich cannot get up there...and on and on and on ...ad nauseam..ar

Re: (Fwd) CUBANALYSIS

2001-06-11 Thread Carrol Cox
The percentage of aging in the population is an empty figure unless accompanied by figures on the percentage of children and adolescents in the population. If the latter decreases, then the proportion of non-workers remains constant. If the latter also increases, then what? In any case, isolated p

RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: The happy planet

2001-06-11 Thread Mark Jones
Michael Perelman: > > > Almost everywhere, there are problems. Is there a study or smthg online to look at, Michael? Thanks. Mark

Re: Re: Re: the gospel of buddha

2001-06-11 Thread Jim Devine
At 12:32 PM 6/11/01 -0500, you wrote: >But surely religious beliefs are often part and parcel of the ruling class >ideology. Believing that this life is not important but only life after >death, that the poor shall inherit the earth, that the poor are blessed, >that the rich cannot get up there...

Re: Re: the gospel of buddha

2001-06-11 Thread Ken Hanly
But surely religious beliefs are often part and parcel of the ruling class ideology. Believing that this life is not important but only life after death, that the poor shall inherit the earth, that the poor are blessed, that the rich cannot get up there...and on and on and on ...ad nauseam..are al

query on US dollar

2001-06-11 Thread Jim Devine
in his ECONOMIC REPORTING REVIEW, Dean Baker writes: >It is worth noting that the dollar has risen in value by 20-30 percent >against other major currencies since 1996. This increase in the dollar's >value was in part a result of a deliberate "high dollar" policy of the >Clinton administration.

Patrick Bond in the news

2001-06-11 Thread Louis Proyect
The Sunday Independent Marches against WEF herald things to come June 09 2001 at 05:40PM By Charlene Smith "Away with the WEF! No to George Soros, Saki Macozoma and moneybags Coleman Andrews!" says a press release issued this week by the Campaign Against Neo-liberalism in South Africa (Canisa)

Asiatic-Hydraulic Mode of Production?

2001-06-11 Thread Ricardo Duchesne
Viewing Imperial China as a society of relatively free markets is the fashion among economic historians. But what would these markets be without the massive use of collective manpower for hydraulic maintenance? Don't ask polycentric historians; they would rather emphasize how humanity has long

Re: stock market query

2001-06-11 Thread Doug Henwood
Jim Devine wrote: >I was fiddling around with my spread-sheet this morning, trying to >get my mind in gear (funny what economists do!). I noticed that the >ratio of dividends to earnings on the NY stock exchange not only has >shown a general mild downward trend since 1959, but has shown a >st

stock market query

2001-06-11 Thread Jim Devine
I was fiddling around with my spread-sheet this morning, trying to get my mind in gear (funny what economists do!). I noticed that the ratio of dividends to earnings on the NY stock exchange not only has shown a general mild downward trend since 1959, but has shown a steep fall between 1992 and

Re: A glimpse of evolution Bye

2001-06-11 Thread Lastmanthere
Michael, I said I was done. AOL? This is an incredible overreaction, and I would point out a few things to AOL myself.  How about netzero? I even have Kmart's Bluelight.com. Chasing me away reflects badly on the list.  Overposting on the eonic effect. Nonsense. Three quarters of my posts were re

Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: The happy planet

2001-06-11 Thread Tim Bousquet
In Chico, there are three contaminated plumes in the shallow aquifer, spreading over an area that covers about 10% of the City. These are all the result of a dry-cleaning operation, a military base, and an industrial operation, all of which once simply dumped their chemicals on-site. The southern

Slate Politics: The Strange Death of Tory England

2001-06-11 Thread Jim Devine
Anne Applebaum writes in SLATE: >A certain brand of British conservatism may be dying altogether. > >By this I don't mean Thatcherism, since Thatcherism lives on in the form >of Tony Blair. While Blair is not, perhaps, Lady Thatcher's own ideal >heir—she would never have condoned his changes to

(Fwd) CUBANALYSIS

2001-06-11 Thread Ricardo Duchesne
** CUBANALYSIS #35 ** THE INVASION OF THE GRAY-HAIRS As Cuba's president Fidel Castro gets older, speculation increases about his legacy to the country. Opinion runs the spectrum from Cuba staying firmly in the socialist camp to Cuba quickly returni

Re: RE: Re: Re: The happy planet

2001-06-11 Thread Michael Perelman
Almost everywhere, there are problems. In some places, it is depletion. In others, it is contamination -- such as the MTBE problems in CA. In addition, where overpumping exists near the coast, salt water intrudes. On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 10:21:02AM +0100, Mark Jones wrote: > Michael Perelman:

Basic Theme of Chinese History

2001-06-11 Thread Ricardo Duchesne
One basic point in my last thread should be clear by now. Rather than arguing in general that Chinese agriculture was experiencing serious limitations by the later eighteenth, we should focus on specific regions in China and write about regional cycles of growth and blockage, the ecological

RE: Sterling standard

2001-06-11 Thread Mark Jones
Doug Henwood wrote: > > So the KGB really was behind a plot to kill the Pope after all? Nope. Mark

Sterling standard

2001-06-11 Thread Doug Henwood
Mark Jones wrote: > > > I would tend to believe the opposite of anything Claire Sterling wrote. > >You'd be wrong. So the KGB really was behind a plot to kill the Pope after all? Doug

RE: Re: Re: The happy planet

2001-06-11 Thread Mark Jones
Michael Perelman: > > You can be sure that the state of groundwater is deteriorating rapidly. care to elaborate? Mark

A Clinton encounter

2001-06-11 Thread Keaney Michael
In connection with Marc Rich, Mark Jones writes: 1. In 1996 I wrote to The Guardian as follows. The Alan Duncan I mention later became a Tory MP, close adviser to the now-defunct William Hague, and yesterday was interviwed widely on British TV for his thoughts on how to rescue the Conservative Pa

William Hague resigns

2001-06-11 Thread Keaney Michael
Penners For the next couple of days I've been promised lengthy breaks in email service (hooray I hear you say). In anticipation of this I have been relying on the sainted Jim Devine to forward messages. However it seems that I have this window available with which to inflict yet more nauseating U